O/T - general election 2019

[great_fire]

Corbyn was better than Johnson who repeated himself too much, but Corbyn failed to make sense of Labour's Brexit policy.

[WanChaiMiller]

Farage 'if the Union is so important to Johnson why did he put a border down the Irish sea'.

[great_fire]

Say what you like about Farage but he's better than those two at this kind of debating.

[Grist_To_The_Mill]

Corbyn was better than Johnson who repeated himself too much, but Corbyn failed to make sense of Labour's Brexit policy.

They have a policy???

Wow

[WanChaiMiller]

Say what you like about Farage but he's better than those two at this kind of debating.

Give him his due hes the best orator out there.

[Grist_To_The_Mill]

Give him his due hes the best orator out there.

Whereas Corbyn is more of a mass debater

[Stovicmiller]

Whereas Corbyn is more of a mass debater

. I like that,and it's true.

[Redshank]

Personally I think the answer to that would be a governmental database of national wide company’s with the public being able to view the profits online. We already have news feeds on this on news channels.

I’m not against nationalism but I’m not sure it’s beneficial in any way

I think you meant nationalisation

The public utilities and public transport i.e. life's essentials, were effectively owned by general public (me and you) prior to Thatchers programme of privatisation back in the 80's. They were essentially funded through taxation but were non-profit making meaning that the general public enjoyed well funded and cheap water, energy, public transport etc. (you could now include internet access as a life essential). Privatisation has resulted in spiralling bills for the general public as the private companies sought to maximise profits. There was a lot of angst about this in the 90's as people increasingly struggled to pay utility bills. Nowadays, people are immune to crippling utility bills and seem to accept it as a way of life. There was, and still could be, another way; public utilities and essential services run by the government for the benefit of the general population not a handful of shareholders.

Lack of sufficient investment in the essential, but now privatised, public services means that they frequently need government money (i.e. mine and yours) to continue to provide the service...and turn a profit for the shareholders of course. Occasionally they catastrophically fail to provide the services they've been entrusted with....remember Carillion a couple of years ago?


So the "benefit" of nationalisation of the essential public utilities is that you get well funded, efficient & cheap water, energy, transport and broadband.

[CASPER-64-FRANK]

Not a dramatic debate tonight but one which I thought Jeremy Corbyn just edged.
Boris Johnson was doing okay up to about 20mins and then Jeremy Corbyn came across better in the second half of the program.
Credit to Julie Etchingham for keeping them in reasonable check.

[great_fire]

Farage did better than both, in the interview on ITV and on Question Time with the usual hostile left-wing audience.

Johnson would probably have crumbled under pressure like that and been even more blusterly than usual.