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Thread: O/T - general election 2019

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    Quote Originally Posted by ragingpup View Post
    Not sure it's beneficial to the rich as they have to pay a fair bit more on balance on the overall package. Not that I think it's coming over well, funding the better off families education, dental check ups, broadband but at the same time many of the higher earners are paying more in income tax. But guess the people who really benefit most are the quite comfortably off, in 40k ish, that get a lot of benefits without really paying much more. That seems unfair.
    I donno puppy them fees the rich pay for oxford and Cambridge are nothing to be sneezed at I think basic entry course is 10 grand then I think it doubles every time you move up a level just think how long it must have taken them thick mps to graduate my god I bet Cameron and Hammond spent millions trying to get a degree and you want to give it them for free?

    I mean we all know mps are the Super riches jobseekers, too stupid to run a company so they get sent to us to beg for a job. Oh and if you think I mean just Tory’s I have one two words for you Diane abbot

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grist_To_The_Mill View Post
    When you look at “national treasures” like Mo Farah and Louis Hamilton (amongst many others) that openly live abroad to avoid tax, why do folks think that increasing tax even more on the higher paid will encourage them to stay here?
    That’s a good point I also hear that they move their money into a over seas bank to avoid taxes and it’s really hard to trace. The problem is it’s so easy for normal people’s info to be found out but when it comes to the rich and business they hide the money so well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Silly-miller View Post
    That’s a good point I also hear that they move their money into a over seas bank to avoid taxes and it’s really hard to trace. The problem is it’s so easy for normal people’s info to be found out but when it comes to the rich and business they hide the money so well.
    It's all legal.
    They don't pay tax in the UK because they don't live here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Silly-miller View Post
    I donno puppy them fees the rich pay for oxford and Cambridge are nothing to be sneezed at I think basic entry course is 10 grand then I think it doubles every time you move up a level just think how long it must have taken them thick mps to graduate my god I bet Cameron and Hammond spent millions trying to get a degree and you want to give it them for free?

    I mean we all know mps are the Super riches jobseekers, too stupid to run a company so they get sent to us to beg for a job. Oh and if you think I mean just Tory’s I have one two words for you Diane abbot
    I know from personal experience that the courses at Oxford and Cambridge cost the same as the courses at the University Of Barnsley or anywhere else. Whether it costs more to be in a position to get on the courses in the first place is debateable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grist_To_The_Mill View Post
    When you look at “national treasures” like Mo Farah and Louis Hamilton (amongst many others) that openly live abroad to avoid tax, why do folks think that increasing tax even more on the higher paid will encourage them to stay here?
    Well lets do away with taxation altogether then , what you earn is what you take home for everyone .

    The twist is you hand everything over to the private sector , healthcare , roads , social services , police , other emergency services , no more state pension and individually you pay as you go along .


    House on fire , feck it we ain't coming you aint covered .

    Being burgled or assaulted , nar mate you ain't covered we ain't coming out .

    Drive to Devon for your holidays , cost you £300 in tolls .

    65 can't work no more , tough shyte survive on £50 quid a week then , there's always charity you know .

    Heart attack , feck off , you ain't got the cover for that .

    Different ball game now isn't it .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Godsend.F.C. View Post
    It's all legal.
    They don't pay tax in the UK because they don't live here.
    No some do live here yes there are a lot who don’t live in U.K. but there’s been footballers mps celebrities who live in U.K. but have offshore accounts to avoid tax Jimmy Carr for example

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    Quote Originally Posted by Silly-miller View Post
    No some do live here yes there are a lot who don’t live in U.K. but there’s been footballers mps celebrities who live in U.K. but have offshore accounts to avoid tax Jimmy Carr for example
    I was talking about Mo Farah and Lewis Hamilton.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/201...y-celebrities/

    What did Cameron do apart from say it was " morally wrong ".
    As one scheme closes another opens up.
    Last edited by Godsend.F.C.; 29-11-2019 at 11:30 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lasterman View Post
    I know from personal experience that the courses at Oxford and Cambridge cost the same as the courses at the University Of Barnsley or anywhere else. Whether it costs more to be in a position to get on the courses in the first place is debateable.
    Want me to post the link on tutorial fees? They are not the same at all Barnsley 6k per year Cambridge and Oxford 10k per year, but hey if I was loaded like you I’d lose track of all them zeros too.

    https://www.undergraduate.study.cam....e/tuition-fees

    https://digital.ucas.com/courses/det...micYearId=2019

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    Quote Originally Posted by Silly-miller View Post
    That’s a good point I also hear that they move their money into a over seas bank to avoid taxes and it’s really hard to trace. The problem is it’s so easy for normal people’s info to be found out but when it comes to the rich and business they hide the money so well.
    It's perfectly legal to live outside of the UK, pay taxes elsewhere, and still spend a significant amount of time here. I think it's about 90 days. So if the government are going to ask you for an amount of tax you consider unfair you'll simply move, use private jets to bob in and out, and the exchequer gets nowt.

    It's also perfectly legal to hold money and investments offshore. There's no question of hiding anything or it being hard to trace. Unless or until the funds and investments are repatriated there's no tax to pay.

    The bottom line is that Corbyn is living in cloud cuckoo land. The super-wealthy, who number about 32,000 individuals and contribute 12% to the tax take, aren't mugs. Squeeze them too hard and they will leave. If they do, we're screwed.

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    Same as I said in the earlier post lets keep what we earn and individually go our own way .

    But here's the thing right whilst we are paying towards living our lives as individuals then feck the need the need to buy goods that will be classed as luxuries .

    You can't have this both ways , I'll have to make my phone last years , healthcare versus a car , a no brainer there .

    Holidays abroad , nar I need police insurance , too many burglaries where I reside .

    In other words the economy would be fecked .

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