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Thread: O/T - general election 2019

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lasterman View Post
    The bottom line is that Corbyn is living in cloud cuckoo land. The super-wealthy, who number about 32,000 individuals and contribute 12% to the tax take, aren't mugs. Squeeze them too hard and they will leave. If they do, we're screwed.
    I won’t pretend to know everything about taxes but there are some who are found guilty of avoiding tax’s one way or another my point was that even if they did stay in U.K. they would find some way to fiddle it on a as you say perfectly legal And as Cameron said morally wrong.

    Government put it up a little I don’t think millionaires and billionaires would care but as you said if they put it up too much some will move and the pound will drop faster than you can say brexit

    Oh I agree I think comrade corbyn is in soviet dreamland

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lasterman View Post
    It's perfectly legal to live outside of the UK, pay taxes elsewhere, and still spend a significant amount of time here. I think it's about 90 days. So if the government are going to ask you for an amount of tax you consider unfair you'll simply move, use private jets to bob in and out, and the exchequer gets nowt.

    It's also perfectly legal to hold money and investments offshore. There's no question of hiding anything or it being hard to trace. Unless or until the funds and investments are repatriated there's no tax to pay.

    The bottom line is that Corbyn is living in cloud cuckoo land. The super-wealthy, who number about 32,000 individuals and contribute 12% to the tax take, aren't mugs. Squeeze them too hard and they will leave. If they do, we're screwed.
    These are fair points, but what about the numerous countries where wealthier people are taxed much higher at the top rate?
    And the numerous countries where companies pay a much higher corporation tax?
    When the corporation tax was 26% in 2010, the same as what Labour are proposing, how come all of the companies stayed?

    The Labour costings by the way take account for some movement of wealth, but they also have serious intentions to tackle tax avoidance. As Kerr points out this may turn out to be too difficult and costly but they have plans to do it, so as always I ask why not try another way? To not try is to keep doing as we always do, and keep getting what we always get. Which for many of us is shat on

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    Quote Originally Posted by ragingpup View Post
    I think that the outcome is inevitably a tory majority . The tories have successfully convinced both the remain conservatives that the deal they have is moderate enough and the leave voters (mainly by whatever deal they had with Farage for him to go low profile) that the deal is sufficiently 'hard' enough. That has been some strategy and got to hand it to them for that. .
    https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/12...it-news-latest

    Keep the faith pal, Express can't make it's mind up from one day to the next.

    No wonder BJ is reluctant to face up to Andrew Neil.
    Last edited by Godsend.F.C.; 30-11-2019 at 03:45 PM.

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    There’s an election?

    You would have thought it would have been given more tv coverage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Silly-miller View Post

    Also how do you know Another party won’t be more for working class if you never try another party? It’s like saying I don’t like chocolate because iv never tried chocolate.
    Sorry mate, I've been tasting Tory austerity for 9 years and it tastes sh;t.

    But the last 9 years will have been like a cake walk if Rees-Mogg and Duncan-Smith are let loose with a stonking majority. The interests of ordinary blokes like you won't enter their heads. Just be aware of that when you cast your vote.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Redshank View Post
    Sorry mate, I've been tasting Tory austerity for 9 years and it tastes sh;t.

    But the last 9 years will have been like a cake walk if Rees-Mogg and Duncan-Smith are let loose with a stonking majority. The interests of ordinary blokes like you won't enter their heads. Just be aware of that when you cast your vote.
    And what happened the last time labour were in power? More importantly what happened to Rotherham? Do you think our town centre became more prosperous?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Redshank View Post
    Sorry mate, I've been tasting Tory austerity for 9 years and it tastes sh;t.

    But the last 9 years will have been like a cake walk if Rees-Mogg and Duncan-Smith are let loose with a stonking majority. The interests of ordinary blokes like you won't enter their heads. Just be aware of that when you cast your vote.
    Problem is if my labour mp who I voted for last time (John Healy) gave a **** about the people Who voted him in he would be voting for brexit instead, he’s a pro remoaner. If I had a labour mp like champion I’d be honestly conflicted mate since although she voted remain she’s voted for brexit every time because her constituents voted for it.

    Everyone ether votes for the party they agree with votes for the candidate they agree with or treats it like a Morrison’s loyalty card afraid to shop else where in fear they will miss a coupon.

    It’s in a sorry state our democracy on one hand you have a fascist pro remain party with a neutral leader who sympathies with terrorist and on other hand you got a bunch of rich snobs with a potentially racist fool.

    As for who I’m voting for it’s ether brexit or Tory’s I haven’t made my mind up, there are some genuine labour mps who respect there constituents but John Healy isn’t one of them.

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    John Healey?

    To call him useless is flattering him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grist_To_The_Mill View Post
    John Healey?

    To call him useless is flattering him.
    I got a leaflet from him yesterday grist I wrote the words dick head and Taped it onto lamppost

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    I find it hard to believe anyone who has been into Rotherham town centre in the last 10 years would vote Labour.

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