Burnley v Newcastle United match thread

[toptoon]

Quote your own words and we'll go through it and you'll need to find the proof for what you imply.

Ok - do you deny that you criticized Rafa for negative and boring football? I think everyone (even you) will remember that.
Then, on a post this week, you said that we should just be grateful that we have football to watch, implying that we should not be demanding on the quality. (My reply was “You’re joking, right?”. Remember?).

A bit of advice for you: think more and write less - it’ll make your argument more consistent.

[usedtobeshearer]

It depends what the facts are and who believes they know then without proof.
Answer: None of know much about what the real facts are and are reliant on making best guesses. That includes you.

What are you talking about? You having another internet break down?

You constantly had a go at Rafa's football.

You've said you've been very entertained with our football this season and it's better than last season...these are facts and everybody has seen it...8m not trawling through your garbage for quotes as it's a waste of time...

If you don't believe this happened then your brain is more damaged than I had imagined...

[ghostrider]

Ok - do you deny that you criticized Rafa for negative and boring football?
I think everyone (even you) will remember that.

Of course I don't deny it. I've criticised Rafa quite a few times. I've also praised him on many occasions.
I wanted him out of the club a few times when his football and results were a disgrace.

I also gave him lee way when he managed to start playing some football and said I'm not against him signing a new contract.
I'd be happy to find the good, how about you go and find all the bad.

Because what I see here is a weird turnaround with some of you.
Some of you wouldn't see any issues with Rafa. Some went to great lengths to call his park the bus football as genius.
Some made out he was building something great and blamed anything and everything for his failure to push on.

His football was dire in the main.
Bruce's football is dire half the time. I admit that but Bruce deserves time. Rafa got time from me. I'll bring up many quotes from me praising him just as much as having a pop.

I'm the first to jump in and praise of there's praise to be given so don;t be coming it a one way system of me simply having a pop and that's that.
Like I said, if you're going to have a dig, feel free but use facts and not cherry picked efforts.

Then, on a post this week, you said that we should just be grateful that we have football to watch, implying that we should not be demanding on the quality.
(My reply was “You’re joking, right?”. Remember?).

Go and find the entire quote and let's go through it. Let's see what I said.

A bit of advice for you: think more and write less - it’ll make your argument more consistent.

A bit of advice for you.
If you want to argue with me then feel free, but engage your own brain to the overall facts and try not to cherry pick just because you have a dislike for me.

[ghostrider]

What are you talking about? You having another internet break down?

I don't know. What's an internet breakdown?

You constantly had a go at Rafa's football.

No. I had a go at Rafa's football and deservedly so but I also praised him. Go and sift through the history instead of making up a one way street to suit yourself.

You've said you've been very entertained with our football this season and it's better than last season...these are facts and everybody has seen it...8m not trawling through your garbage for quotes as it's a waste of time...

Again, go and have a look what I've really said and stop making it a one way street to suit yourself.

If you don't believe this happened then your brain is more damaged than I had imagined...

Or maybe you need to plug yours in.

[usedtobeshearer]

I don't know. What's an internet breakdown?

No. I had a go at Rafa's football and deservedly so but I also praised him. Go and sift through the history instead of making up a one way street to suit yourself.


Again, go and have a look what I've really said and stop making it a one way street to suit yourself.

Or maybe you need to plug yours in.

Already stated I wasn't going to go searching...you stay in denial, no skin off my nose...

I'm off to live a little...I'll leave you to search the dark web for signs of the Lizard people...

[ghostrider]

Already stated I wasn't going to go searching...you stay in denial, no skin off my nose...

Clearly it is, this is why you jump right in. You can't resist it until you see I won't back down.
Spout what you want and have as many goes as you want but bring some real facts with you next time.

I'm off to live a little...I'll leave you to search the dark web for signs of the Lizard people...

Aye, off you pop then mastermind.

[toptoon]

Go and find the entire quote and let's go through it. Let's see what I said.

Post 87 on the 'Free half season tickets':

"All you need to worry about is it being run well enough to play football, because that's what you're a fan of."

I think that does it.

(I don't have a dislike for you. i don't know you. I just don't agree with most of your points of view on my club).

[ghostrider]

Post 87 on the 'Free half season tickets':
I think that does it.

"All you need to worry about is it being run well enough to play football, because that's what you're a fan of."

So that about does it, does it?
Here's the full quote to what you said.

The idea for him to lend money to the club instead of borrowing is two-fold. One, to get his hooks further into the club and secondly to fool people into thinking he has the interests of the club at heart, a ploy that has clearly worked with you.

And my reply.

He's got his hooks into the club. It's his club.
All you need to worry about is it being run well enough to play football, because that's what you're a fan of.

It does that and has done ever since he took over, regardless of mistakes and mishaps and what not.
Very few clubs escape that.

Nothing to do with implying you have to be grateful and everything to do with the club being run with all the ingredients a fan requires, which is a well run club, a squad of players and a decent ground to play it all in.

Why worry about what's behind the scenes in the boardroom or one man and his other business ventures?

Worry when the club is in a dire financial situation like Bury and the likes.

Too many minds are being poisoned and it's not good for them, in my opinion.
Imagine someone who's wasted 12 years of their life playing boycott, as they make out.
12 years of their life doing what?
Making their own life a misery whilst the club's been doing what it's always been doing.


I dread to think what some of them would've made of the real bad times because I've seen enough bad times to make this one look like a walk in the park...and so has many others around my age and older.

[toptoon]

So that about does it, does it?
Here's the full quote to what you said.
And my reply.
Nothing to do with implying you have to be grateful and everything to do with the club being run with all the ingredients a fan requires, which is a well run club, a squad of players and a decent ground to play it all in.

Why worry about what's behind the scenes in the boardroom or one man and his other business ventures?

Worry when the club is in a dire financial situation like Bury and the likes.

Too many minds are being poisoned and it's not good for them, in my opinion.
Imagine someone who's wasted 12 years of their life playing boycott, as they make out.
12 years of their life doing what?
Making their own life a misery whilst the club's been doing what it's always been doing.


I dread to think what some of them would've made of the real bad times because I've seen enough bad times to make this one look like a walk in the park...and so has many others around my age and older.

Well, I'm 50 and my first game was when I was 11. The difference this time to all the others is that this time there is no hope.

[ghostrider]

Well, I'm 50 and my first game was when I was 11. The difference this time to all the others is that this time there is no hope.

No hope for what?

he real difference this time is social media hype and also those silly stats instead of people just watching the game and then talking about the game and not how far someone has ran, etc.
We can all see what the hell goes on and we can all decide what's what about a game.