Corbyn gone

[Claret_Matelot]

I was dissapointed in the low turn out of 67.3%. Now just waiting for the "The result doesn't really represent the whole country"....

Were people not bothered or was it too wet and cold for the snowflakes to get off their backsides and vote?

[1959_60]

These people obviously weren't inspired enough by the various choices to vote Matelot.

If it had been a straight choice of Boris or Jeremy then I would have given it a miss as well.

And that kind of turn out is pretty much par for the course in a GE in the UK.

[sinkov]

Ooh! you cheeky monkey. You have made a lot of stuff up there.

First of all I make my own mind up on things - I don't bother reading opinion pieces from the daily rags.

On the London mayor elections - I never had an opinion, I was not interested in them at all. On the referendum campaign - I never once said that leave could never win. In the Tory leadership campaign - I remember telling you that Boris was a shoe-in.
In the GE Boris and Dominic ran a very effective campaign by dodging most issues and using the same three word mantra over and over again - and it worked perfectly. Fair enough - but he simply can't hide from scrutiny as PM.

I stand by my belief that Boris is not fit to be PM for many reasons. And if we revisit this in 12 months time then I am sure that the public will have him sussed.

Hmmm, you say you make your own mind up 59, but I've never known you deviate even one inch from the Official LibDem Party line on anything.

My summary of Boris's career above was addressed to ' his opponents who have been under-estimating him for years,', not necessarily to you personally, if you did hold him and his talents in higher regard than your lefty progressive chums on social media, then good for you mon ami.

You think in 12 months time he will be in trouble, fair enough, all I can say is there you go again, underestimating him. Boris loves to play the buffoon, the Left think he is a buffoon, and a joker, possibly, one day soon, they'll realise the joke's on them.

[outwoodclaret]

Strange that you blame the media because, in my constituency, not one candidate or helper from any party knocked on my door and I live in quite a large estate. There were 6 candidates in total and the only one that I had heard of was the current encumbent because he had been in place since 2010.
In truth, they all just play at it and are more than willing to accept the salary if elected!

In my constituency Bury South the only party which knocked on my door was the Women’s Equality Party! Credit to them. In the event the Conservatives took the seat from Labour but this was not unexpected because Labour have been losing local ward elections at council level for the last year.

[sinkov]

True Super! The election came too soon for her and she showed her inexperience

Inexperience 59 ?? If you check the dates you'll find she's been an MP for longer than Boris.

[outwoodclaret]

Will there be Life after Corbyn for the Labour Party? My reading from the outside is that the Remainer faction threw Labour Parliamentary candidates in the Midlands and the North under the bus. I have no doubt that Jeremy’s inner circle buttressed by Len McCluskey believe their Manifesto was a triumph lost only in the swamp of Brexit and media antagonism. JC will doubtless delay his departure so a new Corbynite heir can be placed in pole position to take over. Thornberry or BT’s darling Rebecca Long-Bailey may very well be pushed forward as the new great Labour hope. Expect fireworks from the sensible wing of the Labour Party if that is the case. They do still have a sensible wing don’t they?

[sinkov]

I can see no hope for the Labour Party Outwood, they're still in the grip of Momentum, whose members foisted Corbyn on the Party, and they're in no mood to relinquish that grip. So just more of the same from them, and electoral oblivion. Breaks my heart.

[1959_60]

Hmmm, you say you make your own mind up 59, but I've never known you deviate even one inch from the Official LibDem Party line on anything.

My summary of Boris's career above was addressed to ' his opponents who have been under-estimating him for years,', not necessarily to you personally, if you did hold him and his talents in higher regard than your lefty progressive chums on social media, then good for you mon ami.

You think in 12 months time he will be in trouble, fair enough, all I can say is there you go again, underestimating him. Boris loves to play the buffoon, the Left think he is a buffoon, and a joker, possibly, one day soon, they'll realise the joke's on them.

Well, you started your post by saying, "You're just like all the rest in the lefty, so-called progressive bubble 59,..."

As for the Lib Dem policies...

We were far too anodyne with our policy offers at the election Sinkov. Apart from our stance on Brexit I don't think we had one true radical idea.
And for a party that is supposed to be radical and progressive I found this p1ss poor.

I have asked some of our decision makers "If there were a GE next year, after we have left the EU, what policies have we got that stand out from the others?"
We had better get our act together very quickly or we will not recover.

[sinkov]

Well, you started your post by saying, "You're just like all the rest in the lefty, so-called progressive bubble 59,..."

As for the Lib Dem policies...

We were far too anodyne with our policy offers at the election Sinkov. Apart from our stance on Brexit I don't think we had one true radical idea.
And for a party that is supposed to be radical and progressive I found this p1ss poor.

I have asked some of our decision makers "If there were a GE next year, after we have left the EU, what policies have we got that stand out from the others?"
We had better get our act together very quickly or we will not recover.

But your one true radical policy was a disaster 59. Nevertheless all is not lost, far from it imo. You should double down on your support for EU membership and become the Party of Rejoin. You should have accepted the result of the referendum and become that three years ago, but that's another story, and this is the way forward now.

Trust your own judgement and keep hammering home the point that leaving will be a disaster and your party will take us back in at the first opportunity. Then if you're right and it is indeed a disaster, you will be in pole position at the next election, the Tories will be in disarray with their flagship Brexit policy in tatters and Labour probably still in the grip of the loony left. All that has to happen is for you to be right about the consequences of leaving the EU and Bob's your uncle, the electorate will be clamouring for you to save the country and take us back in. And what could possibly go wrong ? Only that leaving the EU does prove to be a success, in which case you're stuffed and you are still an insignificant minor party, but you are that anyway, so you won't be any worse off, it's heads you win, tails you don't lose, so go for it mon ami, the future could yet be Yellow.

[1959_60]

I think the Brexit ship has sailed now Sinkov, and it will be ten years before the country may be ready to return.

Too many people are totally entrenched in their views now and even if things go well there will be many remainers who will still think we made the wrong decision.
And there are too many leave supporters who, no matter how bad things get, will never admit that the decision is wrong.

It will take time for the country to come to it's senses once more.

In the meantime the Lib Dems should be concentrating on beefing up their policies in other areas - we have really taken our eyes of the ball here and our current polices are lacklustre to say the least.