In praise of VAR

[sinkov]

Calvert-Lewin scored a perfectly good goal for Everton against United, There was contact with De Gea so it was reviewed, VAR said it was just normal contact between player and keeper and the goal allowed to stand. I was amazed that all four ex players on the show all thought VAR was wrong and it should have been disallowed, apparently because there was contact between Calvert-Lewin's arm and De Gea's face. Despite numerous slow-mo replays, what none of the muppets mentioned, maybe didn't even notice, was that Calvert-Lewin's eyes were clearly focussed on the ball all the way, he never looked at De Gea and couldn't have been aware exactly where he was. He concentrated on the ball and jumped to head it, De Gea came out for it half-heartedly and there was contact between them, as can happen, but Calvert-Lewin clearly had no intention of fouling the keeper and did absolutely nothing wrong. The VARman got it exactly right imo in allowing the goal to stand, but Souness especially was throwing his arms about and huffing and puffing in mock despair.

I've no time usually for referees or VAR, but the ref and VAR got this one spot on, leaving Souness looking a right tw@t imo.

[Supersub6]

Calvert-Lewin scored a perfectly good goal for Everton against United, There was contact with De Gea so it was reviewed, VAR said it was just normal contact between player and keeper and the goal allowed to stand. I was amazed that all four ex players on the show all thought VAR was wrong and it should have been disallowed, apparently because there was contact between Calvert-Lewin's arm and De Gea's face. Despite numerous slow-mo replays, what none of the muppets mentioned, maybe didn't even notice, was that Calvert-Lewin's eyes were clearly focussed on the ball all the way, he never looked at De Gea and couldn't have been aware exactly where he was. He concentrated on the ball and jumped to head it, De Gea came out for it half-heartedly and there was contact between them, as can happen, but Calvert-Lewin clearly had no intention of fouling the keeper and did absolutely nothing wrong. The VARman got it exactly right imo in allowing the goal to stand, but Souness especially was throwing his arms about and huffing and puffing in mock despair.

I've no time usually for referees or VAR, but the ref and VAR got this one spot on, leaving Souness looking a right tw@t imo.

No doubt there will be a Stewards' Inquiry into all this and all contact with the keeper in the future will be penalised ---because the pundits think it should be. TV rules ---aided and abetted by the rest of the media. He who pays the piper calls the tune! Very sad sinkov!

[sinkov]

Sorry, it wasn't Calvert-Lewin that actually scored, both him and De Gea missed the ball and it went in off LIndelof, I got carried away, but it doesn't alter my basic premise, that there was no foul on the keeper.

[sinkov]

No doubt there will be a Stewards' Inquiry into all this and all contact with the keeper in the future will be penalised ---because the pundits think it should be. TV rules ---aided and abetted by the rest of the media. He who pays the piper calls the tune! Very sad sinkov!

I'm beginning to be a ****y weeny bit more hopeful Sub, they seem to have cut out the ludicrous penalty awards and this was another step in the right direction, despite the muppets moaning, there was no justification for disallowing this goal, and they didn't. Good for them.

[Altobelli]

I still think VAR is not being used properly as its different opinions meaning different decisions.

On Saturday Aston Villa got a penalty when a cross accidently hit a players arm, in Burnley's game a same cross accidently hit a Newcastle arm, VAR looked at it and said it was accidental which was exactly the same as in the Sheffield/Villa game

In another Saturday game (I forget which) a player was booked for a studs up challenge which took out his opponent on the shin, VAR again looked at it and said a yellow was sufficient FFS !

Also Carrols leading elbow was another disgrace, to lead with your elbow so far out IMO shows intent to do harm and injury to an opponent, with VAR not clamping down on this it gives licence to others to do the same, until a different VAR operator see's it differently, which is a complete nonsense.

[blueheeler1]

I still think VAR is not being used properly as its different opinions meaning different decisions.

On Saturday Aston Villa got a penalty when a cross accidently hit a players arm, in Burnley's game a same cross accidently hit a Newcastle arm, VAR looked at it and said it was accidental which was exactly the same as in the Sheffield/Villa game

In another Saturday game (I forget which) a player was booked for a studs up challenge which took out his opponent on the shin, VAR again looked at it and said a yellow was sufficient FFS !

Also Carrols leading elbow was another disgrace, to lead with your elbow so far out IMO shows intent to do harm and injury to an opponent, with VAR not clamping down on this it gives licence to others to do the same, until a different VAR operator see's it differently, which is a complete nonsense.

And there you have it.

Football, like most games played, is refereed through an interpretation of the rules.

Because you have a "remote" referee able to stop and slow down the action doesn't stop it being just another interpretation.

IMO the game should be about goals-not about finding a way to stop goals through video replay.

And that's what VAR does; it looks for a way to disallow.

If the linesman and on-field ref have failed to spot an infringement prior to the goal then it should stand.

If the Ref is unsure then wave play on.

Always give the attack the benefit of the doubt.

VAR hasn't stopped controversy so what's its point???

[sinkov]

The VARmen got another one right today, when they told Taylor to give Chelsea the blindingly obvious pen that he had turned down, but it's still farcical.
How does this work, Billing swings an arm at Ashley's head, and certainly makes some sort of contact as Barnes goes down, all the muppets think it's an obvious red. VAR says play on, no action against Billing, not even a yellow.

Gazzaniga comes off his line, leaps into Alonso at chest height and drops him like a sack of spuds. Taylor bizarrely thinks he did nowt wrong, but VAR quite rightly says pen and a yellow. It was as blatant a red as you'll ever see, probably justifying an appearance in court on a charge of GBH as well, but no just a yellow.

Son, having been dumped on the floor by Rudiger ends up on his back, feet in the air with one foot resting against Rudiger's stomach, probably feeling a bit miffed he slides his foot about six inches up Rudiger's stomach towards his chest, which causes Rudiger to collapse on the floor in apparent agony, to be honest the force was so neglible I'm surprised he even felt it. That's enough for the VARmen and Son gets a red.

So Son goes for next to nothing, while two players who performed far more violent and dangerous acts stay on the pitch, one not even getting a yellow. I could understand this if it was just a ref acting on the spur of the moment, with only his own eyes and judgement to rely on, but these incidents have been studied in great detail and at leisure, and still they come up with the most ludicrous decisions. What on earth is the point of this farcical shamble, ffs get rid of it. I'd much rather live with refs making the occasional mistake, rather than waiting 3/4 minutes for these clowns to make mistakes as well.

[Supersub6]

I couldn't understand Taylor's award of a free kick to Spurs instead of a penalty to Chelsea. Evidently, from his position behind them he thought that Alonson had handled the ball and gave the free kick. I have to admit that I thought that the keeper bottled it because he could have caught the ball and been clattered and goot a free kick anyway, trying to kick it was plain stupid.
The Son incident and the comments of Bournemouth fans about us yesterday just confirm my suspicions that they will soon have the game they desire at the top level with all contact resulting in punishment and a plethora of cards being issued for nothing situations.
Contact sport ---not if they get their way. I look forward to Snowflakes United becoming Champions of Europe.

Just remember that it is not the officials that asked for VAR, it is those running the game along with a lot of input from the media.

[Altobelli]

VAR is a joke, the rules are a Joke, and the administration is a joke.

Bournemouth had 2 players down with difficult injuries on Saturday in the first half, Francis and Fraser, one of them was down for over 3 minutes and the other down for nearly as long, yet the powers that be decided only an extra 3 minutes injury time be played, How the hell does that work ? Its A Joke.

[The Bedlington Terrier]

Mourinho does not like VAR...

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/sport/foot...cid=spartandhp