I didn't want us in the playoffs this season anyway!

[swaledale]

So another Saturday and another horror show! Still optimistic AR now that we are 11 pts off 6th place and sliding down the league faster than the days of Clough Jnr?

[ramAnag]

So another Saturday and another horror show! Still optimistic AR now that we are 11 pts off 6th place and sliding down the league faster than the days of Clough Jnr?

Optimistic? Not particularly...but definitely not a defeatist wrist slasher either like some.

I’m optimistic that we won’t go down and that Cocu will come good.

This window is looking crucial and I accept that January is rarely the best time to strengthen. We are, as you say, eleven points off the top six and the top two are already out of sight imo, but with so much of the season left I wouldn’t write anything else off.

By coincidence Man. City are also eleven points behind Liverpool but I don’t see anyone awarding Liverpool the title with more than half the season to go.

[swaledale]

Optimistic? Not particularly...but definitely not a defeatist wrist slasher either like some.

I’m optimistic that we won’t go down and that Cocu will come good.

This window is looking crucial and I accept that January is rarely the best time to strengthen. We are, as you say, eleven points off the top six and the top two are already out of sight imo, but with so much of the season left I wouldn’t write anything else off.

By coincidence Man. City are also eleven points behind Liverpool but I don’t see anyone awarding Liverpool the title with more than half the season to go.

Not sure what Man City and Liverpool have got to do with it! In any case most pundits are of the view that Liverpool won't throw away an 11 pt lead, but with quality teams anything is possible.

I admire your optimism, but avoiding relegation is that the level we are at? Not sure how many excuses we can trot out - but the signs are disturbing - we self destruct, we are toothless in attack and a couple of good loans may stem the decline but the season's over and IMO we are in real danger of being sucked into a relegation battle.

Cocu come good? What in his past record leads you to believe that he will?

Being realistic, and I can point to posts in September pre drink gate and injuries where I expressed concern that we had a lack of firepower and the tactics were uninspiring and couldn't see us going anywhere, is not wrist slashing its a recognition we have a bang average manager and a less than average team.

There comes a time when even the most optimistic person has to admit when its fallen apart and the fact your now saying we will avoid relegation, is a sign you have revised your expectations.