ICT on Friday - title decider

[JamesMcClean]

So, after all the debating over the last few weeks, Powers goes off, United start to look much more threatening, score and win.



I rest my case M,Lud.

[Whitfieldarab]

So, after all the debating over the last few weeks, Powers goes off, United start to look much more threatening, score and win.



I rest my case M,Lud.

Lol.... If we're being honest here it wouldn't have mattered who went off between Powers or Butcher..... Harkes would have improved us anyway..... But we all get it..... Powers is 5hite aye��

[BudMill90]

Lol.... If we're being honest here it wouldn't have mattered who went off between Powers or Butcher..... Harkes would have improved us anyway..... But we all get it..... Powers is 5hite aye��

Disagree re Powers. He was very good in the first half apart from a couple of wayward passes (perfectly excusable given the conditions). His job was to sit in front of the back 4 and keep the play moving which he did. If you disagree with me then thats fair enough but go back and watch the first half in full again and tell me im wrong he isnt my favourite player and Harkes/Butcher is 100% our best CM pairing but I'm not going to label him '5hite' as he is far from that.

[Noddydog]

Disagree re Powers. He was very good in the first half apart from a couple of wayward passes (perfectly excusable given the conditions). His job was to sit in front of the back 4 and keep the play moving which he did. If you disagree with me then thats fair enough but go back and watch the first half in full again and tell me im wrong he isnt my favourite player and Harkes/Butcher is 100% our best CM pairing but I'm not going to label him '5hite' as he is far from that.

You’re right. Remember he came over here without much game time from a different country. I think with time to settle and a preseason under his belt he can become an important player for us next year.

[JamesMcClean]

Disagree re Powers. He was very good in the first half apart from a couple of wayward passes (perfectly excusable given the conditions). His job was to sit in front of the back 4 and keep the play moving which he did. If you disagree with me then thats fair enough but go back and watch the first half in full again and tell me im wrong he isnt my favourite player and Harkes/Butcher is 100% our best CM pairing but I'm not going to label him '5hite' as he is far from that.

As I, and many others on here have repeatedly said, Powers is not ‘scheite’. Has his style of play being introduced into a winning team brought about a slower, more turgid approach though? Yes, yes and yes again. It should be Butcher or Powers. Not both.

[shedka]

So, after all the debating over the last few weeks, Powers goes off, United start to look much more threatening, score and win.



I rest my case M,Lud.

Harkes is a better player, quicker, more attacking, gives better balance, Butcher and him together just works


That simple.

[tHeArAb]

Powers was playing defensive mid part of the 4-1-4-1 formation which was fine. He played the role well initially. This however, meant Butcher playing a slightly more advanced midfield role which didn't work so well. Naturally Butcher dropping back and Harkes playing the advanced role worked better. Another case of Neilson getting it wrong tbh. Butcher should've started in place of Powers with Harkes taking up Butchers initial role in midfield.

[tHeArAb]

Harkes is a better player, quicker, more attacking, gives better balance, Butcher and him together just works


That simple.

In his positon, yes he is. However they play different roles in the team. Harkes plays his role better than Powers does but the one time we've asked Harkes to be the main holding midfielder (Powers role), it didn't work & we got beat by a part time team. Does this now make Powers the better player? No it doesn't. Different players, different roles.

[GUNBOAT]

In his positon, yes he is. However they play different roles in the team. Harkes plays his role better than Powers does but the one time we've asked Harkes to be the main holding midfielder (Powers role), it didn't work & we got beat by a part time team. Does this now make Powers the better player? No it doesn't. Different players, different roles.

Very sensible post.

[shedka]

He just is the better player in my opinion, nothing I have seen changes that, Butcher is a better player than Powers and they are more similar than Harkes/Powers, Butcher should start ahead of him

Harkes is a better player although different styles both are CM's, Stanton was better too.

Powers is ok on the ball but for me, just very slow and doesn't offer much to the team

Just read this comment on the pie and Bovril match thread from during the game from a Montrose fan
"As a complete neutral I’m puzzled what Powers offers to Utd? He’s as slow as wet weekend in Brechin and as far as I can see has no footballing ability whatsoever. Is he having a bad night or is that the norm? "

Now that is what I have seen every time I have saw him in person, unfortunately, and I can't see what improvement he will make at his age, he isn't going to make us a better side, for me he should be a back up