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    We were due to go to Spain on Tuesday 17 March, waiting for Tui holidays telling us it is a no go, they say that the will contact people on Monday 16 March to pass on information. This instead of notifying us by e-mail now saying holiday cancelled, after Spanish government put a lock down in place, & our own government saying don't travel.
    The reason Tui are hanging back is to contact each customer by telephone & hope to convince them to book another holiday later, then they don't have to give the money back.
    One good thing is I have used holiday extras for airport parking, if you cancel there is a over £10 cancellation fee, but this is being waived, so full refund, easy to do on line. They know full well if they charged a cancellation fee, customers would go elsewhere next time.
    I am taking my money back from Tui, then hoping our 3 week holiday in May in Turkey will get the green light.
    We may have lost our holiday to Spain next week for 11 days, but good news last night I won £700 on the Irish lotto.

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    And that would be enough to cover the short fall in the NHS schools ect?.
    I'm not one of them but why do you think people who are successful should pay more tax?
    Regards the royals. If you deducted the economy they bring to the country from what they cost to keep. How much would the balance be? I saw figures a few year ago estimated at 100m the royals bring to the UK.
    Tax Dodgers. Isn't this a tax relief to attract business to the UK? these company generated much more than they dodge in taxes

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    Quote Originally Posted by crashbang View Post
    Old and lone people self isolating should put a note or something in their window that they need assistance. Shopping etc.
    Old people near us, but you dont know if they already have help.
    A woman has already done a template on these lines, for people to put in their windows.

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    Quote Originally Posted by caytonmiller View Post
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    Tax Dodgers. Isn't this a tax relief to attract business to the UK? these company generated much more than they dodge in taxes
    I wish I could be that trusting Cayton...

    You must have read my views on "successful" people on here before Cayton so I don't really want to bore you with my views on this again. Basically all I will say is that money should not be the only thing that motivates people. There is a limit to how much anybody should have because it really isn't needed to survive comfortably. I know the likes of Howdy will grumble at me for saying that which I am used to.

    There is still no reason why we cant have a decent health system irrespective of all that. I'm not saying that it would solve all our problems with regard to the coronavirus but more nurses, doctors, facilities, research etc would save more lives.
    Last edited by rolymiller; 15-03-2020 at 03:25 PM.

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    Corona virus news ... 232 new cases, 14 more UK deaths today - still accelerating.

    Worse in all aspects than Japan now, and although Germany has far more cases, it also has far less deaths.
    Are they following a different strategy? Did seem to be quicker to introduce a "lockdown", which could have had a positive effect.
    Last edited by mikemiller; 15-03-2020 at 04:16 PM.

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    Going ti ts up very rapidly now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rolymiller View Post
    I wish I could be that trusting Cayton...

    You must have read my views on "successful" people on here before Cayton so I don't really want to bore you with my views on this again. Basically all I will say is that money should not be the only thing that motivates people. There is a limit to how much anybody should have because it really isn't needed to survive comfortably. I know the likes of Howdy will grumble at me for saying that which I am used to.

    There is still no reason why we cant have a decent health system irrespective of all that. I'm not saying that it would solve all our problems with regard to the coronavirus but more nurses, doctors, facilities, research etc would save more lives.
    Have to disagree m8. I just don't think there's enough in the pot to fund our standard of living and the amount of population in the country. If they plough extra into NHS the education suffers or policing ect.
    Agree with the "a person only needs so much to live on" but should we be punishing those people who have prob sacrificed a lot over the early years of there wealth to fund the unemployed/low income/imigrants ect. They probably do enough by employing low income workers.

    Btw. Didn't read you views about "successful people". It was probably on a political thread ��

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    Think Boris should contact the prime ministers of Germany and Japan for advice now. Strategy changes may cost a few bob, which he won't be happy about, but he's got to get on with it.

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    I'm not saying all of the govts actions on this subject are wrong Cayton. We do need social distancing and I think it is right to suspend the footy season for example. You would think that it should be quite simple to not cough and sneeze on others but how many times do you see inconsiderate people do this.

    Yes we do need to protect old folk but a lot of old folk are as fit if not fitter than some young folk and should not in effect be locked up.

    Part of the problem I think is that people don;t know if they have it. I am pretty sure I would know if I had it because I rarely have dry coughs and high temperatures but others like our lass who can hack away for England at the best of times would never know.

    Part of me says get the bug serve your time for a week then get on with your life. I may even have had it already for all I know in a really mild state.

    Agree mikemiller that we have to look at how other countries are doing things. We need a coordinated international effort where we trade ideas on what is and isnt working instead of going it alone.

    It really shouldnt be that hard to get a grip of it if we get simple procedures in place even if they might inconvenience us for a while. We dont have to totally change our life styles just be a bit wary of what we are doing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rolymiller View Post
    I wish I could be that trusting Cayton...

    You must have read my views on "successful" people on here before Cayton so I don't really want to bore you with my views on this again. Basically all I will say is that money should not be the only thing that motivates people. There is a limit to how much anybody should have because it really isn't needed to survive comfortably. I know the likes of Howdy will grumble at me for saying that which I am used to.

    There is still no reason why we cant have a decent health system irrespective of all that. I'm not saying that it would solve all our problems with regard to the coronavirus but more nurses, doctors, facilities, research etc would save more lives.
    I saw recently that Italy has more health professionals per capita than the US so there is naturally a worry here seeing what has transpired there. On a side note, prior to this last week when the health 'care' system here started to get on board with government guidelines of providing 'free' tests, if you wanted a COVID-19 test off your own back your health 'care' provider would do it at a cost of $1,000.

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