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    You can be rational and calm but still worried.
    There is no cure other than your body's own defences ,oxygen may help.
    It's looking like 3% mortality in developed countries apart from Italy which is having a dismal time of things.
    In less developed countries with poorer facilities it may well go higher.
    It seems to be more lethal to older and those with medical conditions but I wouldn't take too much comfort from that as no family is without the old and the sick or the unlucky.
    We won't really know if any country has handled things better than others until it's history, a lock down now looks successful in Korea but you can't sustain it forever and anyone who has seen a graph of the Spanish flu epidemic will be alarmed at the second wave.
    The herd immunity thing is getting a lot of stick but the science tends toward there being truth in it. It's brutal, may have been poorly expressed but until a vaccine is found every large country on the planet is basically going down that path even if they don't admit it because there's nothing else.

    I'm no doctor but one piece of advice I've seen, (Dr John Campbell) on YouTube recommends vitamin D. Most people have a deficiency and a daily oral dose has proven to be efficacious in worthwhile studies against getting, and severity of respiratory viral and bacterial infections and by quite some degree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by optipez View Post
    I'm no doctor but one piece of advice I've seen, (Dr John Campbell) on YouTube recommends vitamin D. Most people have a deficiency and a daily oral dose has proven to be efficacious in worthwhile studies against getting, and severity of respiratory viral and bacterial infections and by quite some degree.
    I read something similar a few weeks ago. Humans above or below certain latitudes don't get sufficient Vitamin D, otherwise known as "The sunshine vitamin", if they don't get enough ultraviolet radiation. There have been many studies but most show a relation between exposure to sunlight and respiratory infections resistance. It may or not be coincidental that flu epidemics decline with the onset of summer and longer exposure to the sun. There was an article somewhere about doctors in this country recommending vitamin D supplements between the months of October and March to people who spend little time outdoors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LaxtonLad View Post
    I read something similar a few weeks ago. Humans above or below certain latitudes don't get sufficient Vitamin D, otherwise known as "The sunshine vitamin", if they don't get enough ultraviolet radiation. There have been many studies but most show a relation between exposure to sunlight and respiratory infections resistance. It may or not be coincidental that flu epidemics decline with the onset of summer and longer exposure to the sun. There was an article somewhere about doctors in this country recommending vitamin D supplements between the months of October and March to people who spend little time outdoors.
    My vitamin D was 11 a year ago, should be around mid 30s. Took an off the shelf supplemnt of 3000Iu for a full year & in Jan was back to normal. I said to the Dr I'll stop it now then."No" not until April, then start again in September. It is lack of sunshine in those months. Ireland is prime for everybodys being low. Infact Pharma Nord thought there was something wrong with Irelands blood testing as all were low. Vitamin D is widely known as "The Sunshine Vitamin"

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    Quote Originally Posted by irishpete View Post
    My vitamin D was 11 a year ago, should be around mid 30s. Took an off the shelf supplemnt of 3000Iu for a full year & in Jan was back to normal. I said to the Dr I'll stop it now then."No" not until April, then start again in September. It is lack of sunshine in those months. Ireland is prime for everybodys being low. Infact Pharma Nord thought there was something wrong with Irelands blood testing as all were low. Vitamin D is widely known as "The Sunshine Vitamin"
    I've not been tested for Vitamim D deficiency but after reading the article linking it to sunshine I started taking it but stopped when the weather became more suitable for gardening and rambling. Now there has been shown a possible "cause and effect" between sunshine and immunity I'm back on 'em till the panic's over. Belt and braces.

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    Watching the press PM and health officials at the press conference now.

    Testing to be ramped up. Good decision IMO but slightly confusing as I think they only ramped it down last Thursday.

    They admitted they are closer to the Italian scenario than previously thought.

    Asking people to avoid social contact and not go out unless necessary. Not a lockdown but looks like a kind of requested/voluntary lockdown. Not sure how or if that will work. PM straight batted any questions about whether he was willing to enforce it by repeating that he has the legal power but thinks people will respect the request.

    Govt withdrawing public support for large gatherings, which I suppose amounts to an effective ban if police and ambulances can't be at the football.

    A lot of it sounded quite vague but said there will be more detailed guidance issued this evening.

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    Quote Originally Posted by drillerpie View Post
    A lot of it sounded quite vague but said there will be more detailed guidance issued this evening.
    We're being softened up. Things are moving too quickly to be unplanned, or else they have no plan at all.

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