O/T:- Are we over-reacting to COVD19?

[jackal2]

UK Chief Scientific Adviser Patrick Vallance:

"The UK has actually done a good job of contact tracing and isolating, so the first phase of this means we're a little bit behind compared with where the outbreak is for others. The [next] measures that we're announced, which is about self-isolation even if you've got very mild symptoms, will mean a large number of people actually at home being isolated. That's a very big measure actually, with quite a big impact across a number of households and a number of people, so not a trivial measure, and all the modelling suggests that these sorts of measures are the ones that have the biggest impact.

It is the case, of course, that if you completely locked down absolutely everything, probably for a period of four months or more, then you would suppress this virus. However, all of the evidence from previous epidemics suggests that if you do that, then when you release it, it all comes back again. So the other part of this is to make sure that we don't end up with a sudden peak again in the winter, which is even larger, which causes even more problems. We do face the prospect of an increasing number of people dying. That is a real prospect. For most people however, it's a mild disease."

[BigFatPie]

Are you sure BFP as the countries and figures from the site Driller posted don’t match yours, I think you need to deal with those haemorrhoids as soon as possible.

Italy’s a tiny bit different. Anybody would think you are nit picking because you don’t like what the info is telling you but I’m sure that’s not the case.

[forwardmagpie]

Italy’s a tiny bit different. Anybody would think you are nit picking because you don’t like what the info is telling you but I’m sure that’s not the case.

So you didn’t get the details from where you said you did. Thanks for clarifying that.

As for the UK figures they are very poor and should definitely be better.

[upthemaggies]

"UK coronavirus crisis 'to last until spring 2021 and could see 7.9m hospitalised'
"four in five ‘expected’ to contract virus"

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...m-hospitalised

[BigFatPie]

So you didn’t get the details from where you said you did. Thanks for clarifying that.

As for the UK figures they are very poor and should definitely be better.

The numbers come from the same source. But I’m glad that after about 10 posts, you’ve finally grasped the point. Well done.

I hope it informs the way you vote next time. My hopes aren’t high.

[forwardmagpie]

The numbers come from the same source. But I’m glad that after about 10 posts, you’ve finally grasped the point. Well done.

I hope it informs the way you vote next time. My hopes aren’t high.

Post the link that matches your original figures and I will believe you but somehow I think you will continue to deflect.

The point is valid and I haven’t posted it wasn’t, just the way you presented the FACTS appears to have been cherry picked.

[i961pie]

Post the link that matches your original figures and I will believe you but somehow I think you will continue to deflect.

The point is valid and I haven’t posted it wasn’t, just the way you presented the FACTS appears to have been cherry picked.

BFP Cherry picking, I don't believe it

[LaxtonLad]

UK Chief Scientific Adviser Patrick Vallance:

"The UK has actually done a good job of contact tracing and isolating, so the first phase of this means we're a little bit behind compared with where the outbreak is for others. The [next] measures that we're announced, which is about self-isolation even if you've got very mild symptoms, will mean a large number of people actually at home being isolated. That's a very big measure actually, with quite a big impact across a number of households and a number of people, so not a trivial measure, and all the modelling suggests that these sorts of measures are the ones that have the biggest impact.

It is the case, of course, that if you completely locked down absolutely everything, probably for a period of four months or more, then you would suppress this virus. However, all of the evidence from previous epidemics suggests that if you do that, then when you release it, it all comes back again. So the other part of this is to make sure that we don't end up with a sudden peak again in the winter, which is even larger, which causes even more problems. We do face the prospect of an increasing number of people dying. That is a real prospect. For most people however, it's a mild disease."

We need the current virus to survive in a healthy population till that population develops an immunity. As with the flu, the survivors are now able to resist that particular strain of flu, i.e. that mutated virus. If the weakest members of a population are situated where they have little or no contact with the infected for long enough, either the virus will die out, mutate, or a vaccine will be found.

[LaxtonLad]

I'm no doctor but one piece of advice I've seen, (Dr John Campbell) on YouTube recommends vitamin D. Most people have a deficiency and a daily oral dose has proven to be efficacious in worthwhile studies against getting, and severity of respiratory viral and bacterial infections and by quite some degree.

I read something similar a few weeks ago. Humans above or below certain latitudes don't get sufficient Vitamin D, otherwise known as "The sunshine vitamin", if they don't get enough ultraviolet radiation. There have been many studies but most show a relation between exposure to sunlight and respiratory infections resistance. It may or not be coincidental that flu epidemics decline with the onset of summer and longer exposure to the sun. There was an article somewhere about doctors in this country recommending vitamin D supplements between the months of October and March to people who spend little time outdoors.

[irishpete]

I read something similar a few weeks ago. Humans above or below certain latitudes don't get sufficient Vitamin D, otherwise known as "The sunshine vitamin", if they don't get enough ultraviolet radiation. There have been many studies but most show a relation between exposure to sunlight and respiratory infections resistance. It may or not be coincidental that flu epidemics decline with the onset of summer and longer exposure to the sun. There was an article somewhere about doctors in this country recommending vitamin D supplements between the months of October and March to people who spend little time outdoors.

My vitamin D was 11 a year ago, should be around mid 30s. Took an off the shelf supplemnt of 3000Iu for a full year & in Jan was back to normal. I said to the Dr I'll stop it now then."No" not until April, then start again in September. It is lack of sunshine in those months. Ireland is prime for everybodys being low. Infact Pharma Nord thought there was something wrong with Irelands blood testing as all were low. Vitamin D is widely known as "The Sunshine Vitamin"