O/T Boris moved to intensive care

[rolymiller]

[QUOTE=caytonmiller;39472476]Your refering back to type Roly. You're first sentence is contradictory. You say the government should have acted quicker then go onto say they need to listen and act on the sound advise.
The medical experts and science experts have been giving the the government the same advice you are questioning...
Am I right in thinking you think the experts are doing a good job but the government are not?[/QUOT

Who knows?. Depends whether Boris listened to them...

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...virus-outbreak

[rolymiller]

...and even a fellow tory said the govt acted too slowly..

https://www.politicshome.com/news/ar...virus-epidemic


hey but you continue to believe gfire eh?

Can I assume that once this settles down again that you think we can draw a line under it and move on and forget about it or do you think lessons need to be learned?

If you think there are lessons to be learned what are they?

[Exiletyke]

Yes but you're lying when you say it's been neglected, spending has doubled in the last 20 years, the only time spending went down in recent years was after the financial crash in 2008 and Labour were in power then.

Looks to me that the steep incline in NHS budget was during the Labour years

[rolymiller]

Looks to me that the steep incline in NHS budget was during the Labour years

Very true Exile. I should have noticed that. I just automatically assume that what gfire puts on here is bollax and didnt really pay it much attention. Still it fooled Cayton as well...so thats comforting...


Its just ridiculous to say Labour haven't invested more in the NHS than the tories. I have known this since I was about chuffin 3...

[caytonmiller]

[QUOTE=rolymiller;39472495]

Your refering back to type Roly. You're first sentence is contradictory. You say the government should have acted quicker then go onto say they need to listen and act on the sound advise.
The medical experts and science experts have been giving the the government the same advice you are questioning...
Am I right in thinking you think the experts are doing a good job but the government are not?[/QUOT

Who knows?. Depends whether Boris listened to them...

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...virus-outbreak

Even if he told you with his last breath "I listened and did whatever the experts recommended" you wouldn't believe him. You genuinely have a agenda with the conservative running our country. Even if you become the most prosperous and wealthiest that you have ever been under conservative rule you would pick faults. I guess you would hate it if all the party's came together whilst the virus was around. Who could you blame? That's why labour have failed miserably over the past few years. People who have more to say about what other people have done/doing wrong than doing something about it themselves.

[animallittle3]

In my personal experience the best service the NHS has ever provided in modern times was during Blair's tenure .

I'm no great fan of Blair by any means but I think it's almost universally accepted that the NHS was funded in a manner it was supposed to be when it was founded .

The last 10 years in my opinion have been the very worst by a considerable distance .

[caytonmiller]

Very true Exile. I should have noticed that. I just automatically assume that what gfire puts on here is bollax and didnt really pay it much attention. Still it fooled Cayton as well...so thats comforting...


Its just ridiculous to say Labour haven't invested more in the NHS than the tories. I have known this since I was about chuffin 3...

Haha straw grasper Roly. Haha
Don't you think the raise is too steep?
Spending the extra money the country didn't have? Leaving us in a state that when the next government comes in we spend more and more time trying to get out of it. Have a look back at every recession we have had and it's always proceed buy the govorments over spending or letting the spending spiral until it all comes crashing down. Notice I don't blame one party! Something you can't seem to do. Keep living in the labour bubble. Shocking

[rolymiller]

I can only assume that you think Labour should have neglected it then Cayton? What would you have said then on here? What should they have prioritised?

[Silly-miller]

Yesterday while people of all sides were wishing the prime minister a speedy recovery the labour mayor of Heanor tweeted, “ Sorry, he completely deserves this and he is one of the worst PMs we've ever had.”

Whip has been withdrawn and she’s no longer labour and is being investigated.

Labour spokesman “ This behaviour is totally unacceptable and not what the Labour Party are about.”

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/uk-en...mpression=true

At least they are condemning the evil cow straight away, respect to them for that

[caytonmiller]

In my personal experience the best service the NHS has ever provided in modern times was during Blair's tenure .

I'm no great fan of Blair by any means but I think it's almost universally accepted that the NHS was funded in a manner it was supposed to be when it was founded during the New Labour years .

The last 10 years in my opinion have been the very worst by a considerable distance .

You have to take into consideration the crash in 2008 though animal. It took 4 years before the green shoots of growth started to show. Though I agree Blair years the most was spent. Don't you think a more gradual spend to keep the increase curve at a more substainable level would have been wise?