David Icke

[WBA1955]

Mad as a March Hare but i was watching an interview of him the other day, an interview that has since been banned incidentally, about Coronavirus and a lot of what he said cannot be dismissed.
He said the figures of deaths could be misleading.
He said that the media never say that people have died of Covid 19 but they have died after being tested positive for Covid 19. There is a big difference in the wording. He said in Italy 99%of deaths had been with old people or ones with underlying health issues.
He also said that the death rate in Europe and Britain is around the same as most years.
Now before you have a go at me i am not saying for an instant that he is right, and Covid 19 isn't a killer i am just saying what he said.
I did a bit of checking on the things he said and found that 600,000 Brits die each year of various illneses. I looked at a graph of deaths in Britain showing people's ***, age group and the diffence Covid 19 has made. No difference at all except when you get to the sixty plus group, then it is only slightly higher.
People who are above 80 years old have a ten per cent chance of dying in the next twelve months. That has always been the case.
There are doctors who have said that most of the people who tested positive would have died anyway of the illness they were being treated for.
Ickes interview has been banned and is being investigated.
The doctor who blew the whistle on Covid 19 was arrested and then died a short time later.
In my lifetime the Asian flu of 1957 and the Hong Kong flu of 1968 killed two and a half million people worldwide.
The figures for Covid 19 while alarming, are nowhere near to these two pandemics. Yet we never saw the sort of measures that we are seeing now.
Also some European countries are relaxing the measures even though the death rate is still climbing.
Why?
There is no cure for a virus, whether it be flu or even a common cold. A virus runs it's course. Something has not seemed right from day one, and being as the news was suppressed in China it could and probably was over here before Christmas. Some of us could already have had it without realising. I was rough in the New Year with headaches, which i never get, high temperature and a cough, i stayed in for two weeks and it took me ages to get rid of it. My wife was ill at the same time.
I do think Covid 19 will be the end of a person suffering from other illness and i am following the guidelines diligently, as my wife is asthmatic.
But i still think there is something being kept from us.

[mickd1961]

There’s a simple couple of points being missed Des.

The rate of the spread of Covid compared to other viruses.

The number of cases that then swamp the ICU departments of hospitals.

No other bug has had people dropping like flies in such a way in Europe for 100 years.

I know David Icke was sports reporter on Midlands Today at the height of his fame Des but you need to stop being lead by such icons.

I’m sure when he first lost the plot he used to dress in a purple tracksuit!?

I think Nick Owen should join up with him and that old p I s s head Bob Warman.......they twitter on about total b o l l u x as well.

[Calgarybaggy]

Once again, David Icke puts 2 and 2 together and comes up with 17.56. He's a remarkable individual. The issue was never the death rate. The issues were the speed of transmittal, the lack of any inherant immunity, the fact that a fairly high percentage of people (10-20%) get very ill and the fact that a good percentage of those need highly specialized hospital care because they get acute respitory distress syndrome (ARDS) which requires a ventilator to survive. Not just any nurse or doctor can operate a respirator - you need specialized training to operate them or you can easily kill the patient. Furthermore, even if you do survive ARDS, it has a reputation for leaving you with residual lung problems for the rest of your life. I think most hospital systems in developed countries have about 10-30 acute care beds per 100,000 population that can treat ARDS and even the most optimistic estimates were that if unchecked this disease would require over 100 acute care beds per 100,000 for some period of time with some predictions as high as 500 acute care beds. So its kind of like a nuclear bomb going off - the real problem is not the dead, sad and distressing though that is, its dealing with the hundreds of thousands who aren't dead. If you look at what is going on in New York right now, they are just about swamped, the doctors and nurses there are completely overwhelmed and apparently they are about two or three days away from not having enough ICU beds to treat everyone. Once they run out of ICU beds or the people to run them then we'll see the mortality rate really start to climb. So you can make the argument "Why shut down the economy for the sake of 10,000 or 100,000 or even 1,000,000 people who are going to die soon anyway?" But tell that to the people of New York and remind yourself that we could easily be in the same mess within a very short period of time. I was in New York City five weeks ago and I guarantee you nobody saw this coming.

[Leicesterbaggie]

Yes, David Icke is a 'fruit cake' but an interesting point that he makes is one that was close to what I looked up a few days ago. The fact is that there were more deaths in February 2019 than in February 2020. Make of that what you want but I don't understand it!

[SwedishBaggie]

Mad as a March Hare but i was watching an interview of him the other day, an interview that has since been banned incidentally, about Coronavirus and a lot of what he said cannot be dismissed.
He said the figures of deaths could be misleading.
He said that the media never say that people have died of Covid 19 but they have died after being tested positive for Covid 19. There is a big difference in the wording. He said in Italy 99%of deaths had been with old people or ones with underlying health issues.
He also said that the death rate in Europe and Britain is around the same as most years.
Now before you have a go at me i am not saying for an instant that he is right, and Covid 19 isn't a killer i am just saying what he said.
I did a bit of checking on the things he said and found that 600,000 Brits die each year of various illneses. I looked at a graph of deaths in Britain showing people's ***, age group and the diffence Covid 19 has made. No difference at all except when you get to the sixty plus group, then it is only slightly higher.
People who are above 80 years old have a ten per cent chance of dying in the next twelve months. That has always been the case.
There are doctors who have said that most of the people who tested positive would have died anyway of the illness they were being treated for.
Ickes interview has been banned and is being investigated.
The doctor who blew the whistle on Covid 19 was arrested and then died a short time later.
In my lifetime the Asian flu of 1957 and the Hong Kong flu of 1968 killed two and a half million people worldwide.
The figures for Covid 19 while alarming, are nowhere near to these two pandemics. Yet we never saw the sort of measures that we are seeing now.
Also some European countries are relaxing the measures even though the death rate is still climbing.
Why?
There is no cure for a virus, whether it be flu or even a common cold. A virus runs it's course. Something has not seemed right from day one, and being as the news was suppressed in China it could and probably was over here before Christmas. Some of us could already have had it without realising. I was rough in the New Year with headaches, which i never get, high temperature and a cough, i stayed in for two weeks and it took me ages to get rid of it. My wife was ill at the same time.
I do think Covid 19 will be the end of a person suffering from other illness and i am following the guidelines diligently, as my wife is asthmatic.
But i still think there is something being kept from us.

Agreed Des, the measures taken to by many countries will probably cause more health problems and deaths than the Corona virus itself (eg unemployed have a 63 % higher risk of mortality). With this I am not saying that one shouldn’t make precautions and protect people in ”risk groups” - of course one should.

And panic spreads faster than the virus itself too, imo...

[WBA1955]

I totally understand the quickness it spreads and the strain on the NHS, but that is the same with any epidemic. Also winter flu kills mainly old people and those with underlying health problems, but also throws up a couple of wildcards with young people and people who seem healthy dying.
A lot of of people die every year who seem healthy and have no known underlying symptoms. Look at our own Cyrille Regis, if he had died this winter and he had tested positive for Covid 19 what conclusion would people come to? The experts themselves don't know how many people died of Covid 19, or if it was a contributing factor. In my opinion it probably was. But so are other viruses. We only hear of how many died who had tested positive for it and we don't know how many people who haven't been tested have it. Possibly millions.
Yesterday two thousand people died in America, but when you think of the population of America how many die in a day anyway?
So far about two million people worldwide have tested positive, Asian Flu KILLED almost that many, or rather that many died who had been diagnosed with it.
Mick asked if we knew anyone who had the virus, yesterday i heard my former managers mom and dad had died after being tested for it. But my manager is about sixty.
On Thursday I had to take the dog to the vets in Wolverhampton for her two month injection. I hadn't been past the front gate for three weeks. I didn't really want to go so i phoned and asked if I could defer, but the vet said he would sooner i go as she needs the injection. I parked on the car park and phoned to say i was there, the vet came out, took her in, gave her the injection and brought her back to me. I had taken some hand sanitiser to use after i got her back, so i am not taking it lightly at all, and I do appreciate the sacrifices of the NHS. Let's hope they won't be underpaid and underfunded and forgotten again after this.

[regis80]

I’ve been meaning to post about this David Icke guy after his videos went viral on Youtube. I’m not sure what to believe and having seen some of his other videos, he does make a point. That said his videos on Youtube, the american that interviews him and rallies what David says.. all seems to be too polished, packaged and staged. I wonder if this is to draw people to their website and increase views. London Real?
However, history will always tell us that those that speak the truth are always called crazy or mentally insane. When you want to make someone seem not so credible that’s what you do. I agree though something doesn’t add up.

[kettering_baggie]

Was it Icke that reckoned that we are all going to be wiped out like the dinosaurs on April 29th when that big asteroid hits us? Well, one thing is for sure, he won’t be able to accept the plaudits for being right.......!

[WBA1955]

Worryingly though Ketts an extinction Asteroid is the one thing that would get world leaders to unite and have a lockdown. I don't think a virus would.
Personally I think, hope, it is about the virus, but i think there is a lot we aren't being told about it.

[Albionic68]

Mad as a March Hare..........But i still think there is something being kept from us.

True, such as is he mad for the other eleven months of the year?

The truth is out there..... probably.