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Thread: Return To Belsen TV Programme.

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    Return To Belsen TV Programme.

    Did anyone watch this documentary by Jonathan Dimbleby?

    A timely reminder of man’s inhumanity to man.

    Survivors aged between 84 and 98 who were children and ****agers whilst caged in that place worse than hell.

    Until I watched it I didn’t realise that many who were liberated were actually killed by the food our soldiers gave them such was the state of their digestive systems.

    Still gut wrenching to see corpses dragged by an arm or a leg and thrown like rag dolls into a mass burial pit.

    I was surprised to see the dead had actually been treated with such disrespect.....you’d think they’d suffered enough indignity in life without that final insult.

    A harrowing but necessary watch I think.

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    Absolutely shocking Mick. We need to show these documentaries to remind everyone in our society of the atrocities that went on and highlight the need for this never to happen again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TipperaryBaggie View Post
    Absolutely shocking Mick. We need to show these documentaries to remind everyone in our society of the atrocities that went on and highlight the need for this never to happen again.
    Plenty of deniers out there Tip.

    Seeing other inmates just sat next to piled up bodies and people walking amongst the dead was terrible to see.

    It had become so normal they didn’t bat an eyelid.

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    I can't believe the allies helped them rebuild their country after the war. Germany imo should have ceased to exist as a country, they should all have been put to work for the victors, that's what they would have done to us if they had won the war.
    We have to apologise now for bombing them and the kids of Bomber Command many of whom never came home are treated as lepers.
    Do you seriously think they would have apologised for London, Coventry, Birmingham, Liverpool, Plymouth, Portsmouth and all the other cities they pulverised?
    I was watching an interview a few days ago with Frank whose father had been governor of Poland. He said Germany felt insecure being surrounded with countries like France and Poland, and while the country is now the strongest in Europe, he said it would only take a downturn in the economy to change that.
    The right wing is becoming strong again there.
    When the two Germany's were reunited in the late eighties and old bloke i knew said to me, bad mistake, they will start again, it might not be in our lifetimes but they will.

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    Harrowing, the only word to describe that film. Everyone should watch that as a warning against far right extremists. Actually, the far left extremists are just as bad, plenty of examples in recent history. Alas, history has a habit of repeating itself......

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    That is quite correct Ketts, old Joe Stalin killed more Russians than Hitler did.

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    Throughout history there are multitudes of instances where mans inhumanity to man appears unbelievable.
    Cambodia and Pol Pot.....intellectuals died in their millions. The West knew about it but did what; stood and watched!
    Even slavery to our eyes today is horrible, yet the Britain and the USA economies prospered at the expense of poor slaves transported from Africa in terrible conditions.......the mores of the day thought it perfectly acceptable.
    I am of the view that as these atrocities continue unabated throughout history man will never change. Even today we have modern slavery where gullible individuals are transported from Eastern Europe to work and live in conditions most of us think unfit for animals. What are our politicians doing about it.....playing lip service.
    Interesting that almost all of leading politicians have never studied history.....no wonder countries never learn!

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    Quote Originally Posted by WBA1955 View Post
    I can't believe the allies helped them rebuild their country after the war. Germany imo should have ceased to exist as a country, they should all have been put to work for the victors, that's what they would have done to us if they had won the war.
    We have to apologise now for bombing them and the kids of Bomber Command many of whom never came home are treated as lepers.
    Do you seriously think they would have apologised for London, Coventry, Birmingham, Liverpool, Plymouth, Portsmouth and all the other cities they pulverised?
    I was watching an interview a few days ago with Frank whose father had been governor of Poland. He said Germany felt insecure being surrounded with countries like France and Poland, and while the country is now the strongest in Europe, he said it would only take a downturn in the economy to change that.
    The right wing is becoming strong again there.
    When the two Germany's were reunited in the late eighties and old bloke i knew said to me, bad mistake, they will start again, it might not be in our lifetimes but they will.
    So you are advocating we should have done to them as they would have done to us. Does that not us as bad as them?

    It was the 'punishment' meted out Germany after WW1 that led to Adolf coming to power. We learned our mistake and helped them (actually the Yanks did) rebuild. The result has been 75 years of peace in Europe for probably the first time ever with no prospect of any conflict in the future. And after the battering they took in WW11 I can't imagine many Germans being ready for war anytime soon.

    Now Putin and the Russians that's much scarier for Europe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pugmitch View Post
    Throughout history there are multitudes of instances where mans inhumanity to man appears unbelievable.
    Cambodia and Pol Pot.....intellectuals died in their millions. The West knew about it but did what; stood and watched!
    Even slavery to our eyes today is horrible, yet the Britain and the USA economies prospered at the expense of poor slaves transported from Africa in terrible conditions.......the mores of the day thought it perfectly acceptable.
    I am of the view that as these atrocities continue unabated throughout history man will never change. Even today we have modern slavery where gullible individuals are transported from Eastern Europe to work and live in conditions most of us think unfit for animals. What are our politicians doing about it.....playing lip service.
    Interesting that almost all of leading politicians have never studied history.....no wonder countries never learn!
    Good post! 👍

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    Putin’s scary for the world......Europe is a mere bagatelle!

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