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[WTF11]

That is why I previously stated Politicians and corporations run the world. Here in Australia, we have so much gas and other energy products which we sell yes sell to china for 5 cents a kilowatt but the local companies charge it's inhabitants over 1 dollar per kilowatt.
Years ago gas and electricity were provided and owned by the government and in turn, the big corporations bought them out as it was supposed to bring in competition and cheaper prices but in fact prices have skyrocketed through the roof. For example and a true one at that. I get paid the disability pension which is 935 per fortnight and my gas bill is 700 every 2 months. Electricity is like 350 a month thanks to these corporations and politicians I live in the lucky country lol
Ps Australia has lost all of its manufacturing even to this day we lost all our car manufacturing due to the governments selling off our gas and electricity companies and they could no longer afford the extraordinary prices this companies were charging them.
Anyway, we can say all we can the bottom line is Business as usual as they only look after it's own pocket and give rats a--- about others.

Sorry, manfacturing industries the world over have been closed down and transferred to the far east (including but not exclusively China) NOT because governments in the west wanted that but because WE, you and I, DEMANDED IT, through our incessant need for cheap, low cost, inexpensive etc etc etc. Govenment can help limit the damage, and they haven't (well enough anyway), but you and i are the chief culprits and until WE demand change, change will not happen

[spaldy]

What kind of dumbass country builds a bioweapon lab for the CCP? Maybe the stupidest thing ive seen in this whole fiasco

[ozleeds]

Who are you asking? (And why?)

the English want to do heaps more trading with the Chinese unreal

[ozleeds]

Sorry, manfacturing industries the world over have been closed down and transferred to the far east (including but not exclusively China) NOT because governments in the west wanted that but because WE, you and I, DEMANDED IT, through our incessant need for cheap, low cost, inexpensive etc etc etc. Govenment can help limit the damage, and they haven't (well enough anyway), but you and i are the chief culprits and until WE demand change, change will not happen

Sorry don't include me as I rather buy Australian made but I have no option anymore. FFS even call centers for us are either Indian or Phillipines.

[WTF11]

Sorry don't include me as I rather buy Australian made but I have no option anymore. FFS even call centers for us are either Indian or Phillipines.

You use a mobile phone? Where dobyou think most of the components come from, even if it wasnt assembled in China? Same for ANY computing equipment, no matter what it says on the badge. If like me you were to ride a Harley, all the shiny bits now come from China. Where do you buy your clothes? Check the labels, i doubt most say "Made in Australia". You cant buy what isnt for sale and most things (including the services you mention), arent made or sold by companies based in the country that we would call home (whichever country that may be), as most of us (still), arent Chinese.

[ozleeds]

You use a mobile phone? Where dobyou think most of the components come from, even if it wasnt assembled in China? Same for ANY computing equipment, no matter what it says on the badge. If like me you were to ride a Harley, all the shiny bits now come from China. Where do you buy your clothes? Check the labels, i doubt most say "Made in Australia". You cant buy what isnt for sale and most things (including the services you mention), arent made or sold by companies based in the country that we would call home (whichever country that may be), as most of us (still), arent Chinese.

Like I said I do not have a choice but I would rather buy local but our governments have made sure I cant buy local cause they have sold everything.
Do you think I like talking to an Indian or Filipino when say I have an internet problem? A I can't understand them and B they can't understand my problem cause they just read scripts.
Like I said everything is sold and moved overseas there is no such thing as local products. You know the funny thing is our governments bring out BS like please support local business and by local so go figure.

[ozleeds]

New Zealands main product is fish. If you look at the packet it says caught in NZ packet in china lol.
They send the fish to china to be packet and transported back to NZ i mean WTF.

[ozleeds]

Let's go back to Football.
If Leeds had 2 top team's one full english and British players and the other made by an all foreigner team eg like most of the premiership now days. Which team would you have most satisfaction in watching and supporting.
The whole world is a mess and yes we made it that way and let it go that way by not standing up and fighting for local jobs business so on and dirty politicians have taken advantage and in this case wages been paid by the chinese.
I just feel so sorry for the next gen comming up.

[ozleeds]

Wake up people if you think this is only happening here take another look
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0w7mjwp5V40

[WTF11]

Let's go back to Football.
If Leeds had 2 top team's one full english and British players and the other made by an all foreigner team eg like most of the premiership now days. Which team would you have most satisfaction in watching and supporting.
The whole world is a mess and yes we made it that way and let it go that way by not standing up and fighting for local jobs business so on and dirty politicians have taken advantage and in this case wages been paid by the chinese.
I just feel so sorry for the next gen comming up.

The answer to your question about teams depends in what you value most, "success" measured by the profit made by the club and its ability to win silverware at all levels, or knowng that the players play for the team and the supporters and give back to both the loyalty that the supporters have always given.

You know my answer, but then im old, and my perspective is probably very different to a ****ager growing up in Leeds right now.