No football this year

[BCram]

Do you think Piers is helping the situations? Seems to me the person who was harangued today was expecting to talk about the current issue of domestic violence. She did this very competently and it seemed to me she had done a good job.

She was berated about the2016 review into the country's ability to cope with a pandemic virus. The report clearly showed that the NHS and everyone involved with health issues were completely unprepared to cope with such an event. Those in charge did nothing. There will be reasons for the decision to kick the issue into the long grass. I think it has been obvious for some time that those who have been involved with running the health service have been unable to get round the difficulty that there is never enough money. Is there any indication of the cost that would have been involved in implementing the measures needed to prepare for a pandemic as set out in the 2016 test? What would have been cut to allow for this?

It's not fine to shout and talk over people. Piers is trying hard to expose the mistakes that have been made, which is fine, but I think he would get more revealing information if he made sure that the person being interviewed knew what the questions would be so that they could give meaningful answers.

Last point, you buy the plastic gloves in boxes of 100. They are all the same and I don't think they are ever sold as pairs of gloves.

[Mudskipper]

Do you think Piers is helping the situations? Seems to me the person who was harangued today was expecting to talk about the current issue of domestic violence. She did this very competently and it seemed to me she had done a good job.

She was berated about the2016 review into the country's ability to cope with a pandemic virus. The report clearly showed that the NHS and everyone involved with health issues were completely unprepared to cope with such an event. Those in charge did nothing. There will be reasons for the decision to kick the issue into the long grass. I think it has been obvious for some time that those who have been involved with running the health service have been unable to get round the difficulty that there is never enough money. Is there any indication of the cost that would have been involved in implementing the measures needed to prepare for a pandemic as set out in the 2016 test? What would have been cut to allow for this?

It's not fine to shout and talk over people. Piers is trying hard to expose the mistakes that have been made, which is fine, but I think he would get more revealing information if he made sure that the person being interviewed knew what the questions would be so that they could give meaningful answers.

Last point, you buy the plastic gloves in boxes of 100. They are all the same and I don't think they are ever sold as pairs of gloves.

They are elected members of Parliament if they can’t take criticism what are they really there for ,Morgan can be pedantic no doubt but he’s essentially asking questions that need answers ,why would you give them the heads up on what you were going to ask can they not work that out themselves in the current climate..!!!

How much money is not enough when it comes to the NHS ,have there been cuts undoubtedly but the numbers are huge how much of that money is squandered through bad management/practices you can never have enough if your essentially pouring money down a hole.

[BCram]

They are elected members of Parliament if they can’t take criticism what are they really there for ,Morgan can be pedantic no doubt but he’s essentially asking questions that need answers ,why would you give them the heads up on what you were going to ask can they not work that out themselves in the current climate..!!!

How much money is not enough when it comes to the NHS ,have there been cuts undoubtedly but the numbers are huge how much of that money is squandered through bad management/practices you can never have enough if your essentially pouring money down a hole.

I agree with much of what you say Mudskipper. I just think that Piers Morgan is on the right track but he could get so much more out of his guests if he gave them the chance to prepare. Imagine if today's interviewee had been able to explain why the obvious route, of putting in place the recommendations that were needed to prepare for a pandemic had been ignored, and what had been done instead. I am wanting more information, not just some politician being bashed.

He had, on one of the programmes, someone who had made a detailed study of the way other countries had closed down their airports, or tested every person who came off any plane that did land. This was compared with the British attitude that did not test anyone, simply gave them a leaflet and told them to self isolate with no testing or tracing. It was a devastating presentation of facts which showed why Britain is in the state it is.

There was another point that the British scientists/experts decided to call this pandemic something else. The point of this was to address the fact that they could not legally ask the health service to cope with a pandemic abecause they did not have sufficient PPE and oxygen delivery systems and ventilators that were needed to cope with a pandemic. This , to me, was a very damaging allegation. The problem is what do you do. It looks to me as though the whole save the NHS strategy has been a smokescreen to encourage our health service workers to do the only thing possible and that is, to do the best they can with what they have and what can be acquired as quickly as possible. It isn't right and I think things will be different and n future.

[Mudskipper]

I agree with much of what you say Mudskipper. I just think that Piers Morgan is on the right track but he could get so much more out of his guests if he gave them the chance to prepare. Imagine if today's interviewee had been able to explain why the obvious route, of putting in place the recommendations that were needed to prepare for a pandemic had been ignored, and what had been done instead. I am wanting more information, not just some politician being bashed.

He had, on one of the programmes, someone who had made a detailed study of the way other countries had closed down their airports, or tested every person who came off any plane that did land. This was compared with the British attitude that did not test anyone, simply gave them a leaflet and told them to self isolate with no testing or tracing. It was a devastating presentation of facts which showed why Britain is in the state it is.

There was another point that the British scientists/experts decided to call this pandemic something else. The point of this was to address the fact that they could not legally ask the health service to cope with a pandemic abecause they did not have sufficient PPE and oxygen delivery systems and ventilators that were needed to cope with a pandemic. This , to me, was a very damaging allegation. The problem is what do you do. It looks to me as though the whole save the NHS strategy has been a smokescreen to encourage our health service workers to do the only thing possible and that is, to do the best they can with what they have and what can be acquired as quickly as possible. It isn't right and I think things will be different and n future.

Pretty much agree with the above ,Morgan makes good points but falls into the trap of almost making the debate personnel he needs to learn to step back and let them make their own mistakes ,I think the PM needs to stop sending ministers that are ill prepared for this type of interrogation ,can you imagine if it was Andrew Neill.

The whole save the NHS has been a cover up/smokescreen as you say they have been left to manage through when there has been a clear failing at the top level ,it will never be proven but I’ll bet the decision to not stockpile PPE on the back of evidence was an economic one who knows.

This country has been taking flights into airports and not testing these people,so effectively we have been in lockdown for 5 weeks and the government has left the back door open ,just staggering.

There was another professor on the radio this morning saying test test test it’s the only way to know what your dealing with until there is a vaccine.

[islaydarkblue]

They are elected members of Parliament if they can’t take criticism what are they really there for ,Morgan can be pedantic no doubt but he’s essentially asking questions that need answers ,why would you give them the heads up on what you were going to ask can they not work that out themselves in the current climate..!!!

How much money is not enough when it comes to the NHS ,have there been cuts undoubtedly but the numbers are huge how much of that money is squandered through bad management/practices you can never have enough if your essentially pouring money down a hole.

In my opinion people stand for election as an MP for one reason. They like to feel important. They are certainly not becoming an MP for the good of the country or their electorate as the only time they coming knocking on your door is when there is a General Election coming up.
In December 2018 I had a meeting with Stewart Hosie SNP MP for Dundee East, Monifieth and Carnoustie who was the SNP member of a Treasury Select Committee grilling Ross MacEwan Chief Executive of RBS about internal fraud in his bank. I handed over proven information about internal fraud in a Nat West Bank (part of the RBS Group) Clearing Centre. 16 months later I am still waiting for a reply from Stewart Hosie. Meanwhile Ross MacEwan now retired as Chief Executive of RBS has received a CBE.
No doubt Stewart Hosie will be looking forward to elevation to the House of Lords when he eventually retires as an MP.

[Mudskipper]

In my opinion people stand for election as an MP for one reason. They like to feel important. They are certainly not becoming an MP for the good of the country or their electorate as the only time they coming knocking on your door is when there is a General Election coming up.
In December 2018 I had a meeting with Stewart Hosie SNP MP for Dundee East, Monifieth and Carnoustie who was the SNP member of a Treasury Select Committee grilling Ross MacEwan Chief Executive of RBS about internal fraud in his bank. I handed over proven information about internal fraud in a Nat West Bank (part of the RBS Group) Clearing Centre. 16 months later I am still waiting for a reply from Stewart Hosie. Meanwhile Ross MacEwan now retired as Chief Executive of RBS has received a CBE.
No doubt Stewart Hosie will be looking forward to elevation to the House of Lords when he eventually retires as an MP.

Islam,not being funny but is fraud not a matter for Police Scotland

[Mudskipper]

Meant Islay....

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yip i agree P Morgan isnt everyones cup of tea,however he asks the questions that so many are not,it will be very interesting if the minister who was on for the last two weeks and who told PM on 1st interview that she would get the numbers last week and never just beggars belief,no wonder PM savaged her.

If i took the school run kids to Arbroath instead of their correct school id lose my job,the minister im referring too never knew the correct numbers of front line nhs/care staff who had lost their lives,that is just wrong on so many levels,i look forward to her being back on i think its tomoro morning.

Also totally agree re the govt leaving the back door open thats a scandal in itself,not to mention the away fans who were allowed to travel to Liverpool despite their own league playing behind closed doors at the time

[islaydarkblue]

Islam,not being funny but is fraud not a matter for Police Scotland

Hi Mudskipper.
I had a cheque which I issued for £75 fraudulently altered to £2,350 and the half wits who fraudulently altered my cheque did not have a banking brain as they put a ‘2’ in front of the ‘8’ to make it ‘28th’ despite a cheque having a six month shelf life on it. I suffered no loss as I happened to take a mini statement the day my cheque was in the ‘forward posting’ (a banking term) of my current account and my bank was able to return my cheque. As soon as the bank staff retrieved my cheque they noticed that it had been fraudulently altered. I have a black and white photocopy of my fraudulently altered cheque and it looks as if I had written the cheque myself. The only thing that the fraudsters did not alter was my signature.
I reported my fraud to Strathclyde Police (it took place in January 2012). I gave them full details of where and how the fraud took place and I received a crime reference number. The WPC advised me that they would forward the details of this attempted fraud to the Metropolitan Police and I have never heard a cheep from the Met.
My father received a series of fraudulent standing orders debited to his current account and his RBS branch refunded him every time a fraudulent standing order was debited to his account. Eventually in 2017 I went to the Police Scotland Bell Street office to report this crime.
The WPC on duty told me that they could not investigate this crime as my father had received a full refund from his bank.
I was shocked and told her that this was a novel way for the SNP Government to keep the crime figures down in Scotland.
Over four months after my father died there was another attempt to debit a fraudulent standing order to his current account. I received a phone call and email from RBS asking me to contact them about this standing order. I phoned them and they asked if they could speak to my father. I told them that they would have to go to the ‘pearly gates’ if they wanted to speak to him as he had died over four months ago.
Unbelievable but all true.
In my opinion the main cause of banking fraud is that the back office work from bank branches has been removed to service centres where these staff are able to access full details of customers accounts without their knowledge. I even offered the details of these fraudulent transactions to the Money Section of the Sunday Times in October 2017 after they had been complaining about banking fraud but they never used my information.

Everyone seems happy to ‘sweep things under the carpet’ and do nothing about it resulting in the fraudsters getting away with it.

[Shuntz]

D - snp mps or msps don’t accept peerages
But I agree he never impressed me when I met him
Iv met a few politicians at various events and I was the most impressed by Ken Clark but most of them of all parties seemed ok as people.

Lord Thomson of Monifeith latterly the Chairman of ITV used to sponsor the Dee each season of memory serves me right.