O/T Coronavirus Thread (3)

[Silly-miller]

Iv done more baking in this lockdown than I have in 5 years

[KerrAvon]

Patrick Vallance on death figures

" The Office of National Statistics rates are people who have got Covid on their death certificates, It doesn't mean they were necessarily infected because many of them haven't been tested"


Can someone please explain this?

Section 18 and schedule 13 of the Coronavirus Act 2020 create a temporary change to the registration of deaths. In essence a doctor no longer needs to be present at death or to have seen the deceased prior to it in order to certify a cause of death. The practical effect of this is that people who die at home or in care homes may have their deaths certified remotely by a doctor who questions the persons present (e.g. care home staff) as to the circumstances and symptoms of the deceased. If they think it 'likely'' that the death was due to Covid19, they may certify it as such and it will enter the ONS figures.

The above is one of the reasons why it is too early to determine the effect of the disease. Instead we will need to wait for ‘excess death’ calculations where the number of people who have died during the period of the disease is compared with the number that would have been expected under ‘normal’ circumstances. Even that will not accurately indicate the number of Covid deaths as it will include people who have died for reasons incidental to the pandemic e.g. people who delayed contacting a doctor when they fell ill for other reasons or who could not access treatment.

The above has given rise to two different conspiracy theories:

1. From the far Right and Left - that deaths are being deliberately inflated so as to justify the withdrawal of people's human rights – the so called 'plandemic' (Bill Gates and/or Israel sometimes get a mention alongside this one).

2. From the domestic loony Left - that deaths are being deliberately under reported in order to hide evidence of government failings and/or a deliberate culling of the population (Dominic Cummings generally gets a mention at this point).

[ragingpup]

Iv done more baking in this lockdown than I have in 5 years

I've never baked a cake before until this morning - purely for something to do! Created a rather amazing vegan double choc thing of wonder. I'm stunned. Would cost £20 in a bakery! F-ing yum!

[Exiletyke]

Section 18 and schedule 13 of the Coronavirus Act 2020 create a temporary change to the registration of deaths. In essence a doctor no longer needs to be present at death or to have seen the deceased prior to it in order to certify a cause of death. The practical effect of this is that people who die at home or in care homes may have their deaths certified remotely by a doctor who questions the persons present (e.g. care home staff) as to the circumstances and symptoms of the deceased. If they think it 'likely'' that the death was due to Covid19, they may certify it as such and it will enter the ONS figures.

The above is one of the reasons why it is too early to determine the effect of the disease. Instead we will need to wait for ‘excess death’ calculations where the number of people who have died during the period of the disease is compared with the number that would have been expected under ‘normal’ circumstances. Even that will not accurately indicate the number of Covid deaths as it will include people who have died for reasons incidental to the pandemic e.g. people who delayed contacting a doctor when they fell ill for other reasons or who could not access treatment.

The above has given rise to two different conspiracy theories:

1. From the far Right and Left - that deaths are being deliberately inflated so as to justify the withdrawal of people's human rights – the so called 'plandemic' (Bill Gates and/or Israel sometimes get a mention alongside this one).

2. From the domestic loony Left - that deaths are being deliberately under reported in order to hide evidence of government failings and/or a deliberate culling of the population (Dominic Cummings generally gets a mention at this point).

Section 18 and schedule 13 of the Coronavirus Act 2020 create a temporary change to the registration of deaths. In essence a doctor no longer needs to be present at death or to have seen the deceased prior to it in order to certify a cause of death. The practical effect of this is that people who die at home or in care homes may have their deaths certified remotely by a doctor who questions the persons present (e.g. care home staff) as to the circumstances and symptoms of the deceased. If they think it 'likely'' that the death was due to Covid19, they may certify it as such and it will enter the ONS figures.



Wonder if many murders will go undetected

[Silly-miller]

I've never baked a cake before until this morning - purely for something to do! Created a rather amazing vegan double choc thing of wonder. I'm stunned. Would cost £20 in a bakery! F-ing yum!

I haven’t done any real baking since my Nan died years ago, like you I was looking for something to do so I dug my nans cook book out and made some chocolate eclairs and coffee creams

[ragingpup]

I haven’t done any real baking since my Nan died years ago, like you I was looking for something to do so I dug my nans cook book out and made some chocolate eclairs and coffee creams

Problem is who to share it with? Only have wife and daughter, and cake is big enough to feel an army! Mucho temptation.

Started on bread as well now in lasy 2 weeks - Puppy's getting larger!!

[Silly-miller]

Problem is who to share it with? Only have wife and daughter, and cake is big enough to feel an army! Mucho temptation.

Started on bread as well now in lasy 2 weeks - Puppy's getting larger!!

Share them with Mr right cheek and Mr left cheek lol

[caytonmiller]

Problem is who to share it with? Only have wife and daughter, and cake is big enough to feel an army! Mucho temptation.

Started on bread as well now in lasy 2 weeks - Puppy's getting larger!!

We have the same problem. Made a lemon cheesecake. It was as big as a diner plate. After me n the wife had ate it for 3 days running, the last 1/4 went in the bin.
Mrs made some fudge yesterday. Omg it was amazing. As smooth as butter. Not too sweet with a thin layer of chocolate on the top... Yum yum

[caytonmiller]

Fishing and golf allowed after Wednesday

[Exiletyke]

Problem is who to share it with? Only have wife and daughter, and cake is big enough to feel an army! Mucho temptation.

Started on bread as well now in lasy 2 weeks - Puppy's getting larger!!

and cake is big enough to feel an army! Mucho temptation. [/quote]

There's nothing else for it rp you're just going to have to go out & grope a soldier