O/t sturgeon

[noahrab]

Because he's a fkn moron.

I understand people not liking certain politicians for various reasons. They might be a lot of things to a lot of people....but I don’t think being moronic gets you to the top in this country. Our electorate are better than that.

[Mudskipper]

Starmer might well do good things at PMQ’s....but are miles off being an effective opposition with the policies and some of the MP’s they have that control that policy.

100% agree ,different ball game being a decent opposition and catching out the PM once a week ,was just making the point that he seems to be very calm ,obviously his legal background would make sure he’s closing down counter arguments while he’s making statements in the commons but good to see Boris sweating bullets....👍.

[Returnofrros]

The media are only interested in tripping people up.

No intention of informing the public. When the public have had the opportunity to ask questions they have been much better.

Some of the documentaries are better, the Scottish guy that does quite a bit for disclosure is pretty guid.

The news though is just appalling, it's not so much news it's more the angle of the day or week.

You shouldn't be able to guess the politics of the presenters but apart from maybe Sophie Rayworth or George Alligyah I think I could get most.......John snow, thon Cathy woman that embarrassed herself with Jordan Petterson, the woman (bbc) that's heid goes more side to side than Ray Wilkins you can see right thru them.

[BCram]

Yep, keep asking the same questions and they keep getting the same non answers. Latest one is kids going to school and still the solution is to expect them to socially isolate. No PPE for teachers. Read that the 1918 flu was in 2 waves. First wave left the kids alone and hit the elderly, second wave hit the kids hard. Seems to me we need something other than social isolation to help kids back k into school.

[islaydarkblue]

Last Thursday evening I watched the disclosures programme on BBC1 Scotland last Monday which I had recorded as it was on at the same time as Coronation Street.
It was reported that a care home resident had in January 2020 been admitted to hospital suffering from a chest infection and returned to her care home when her chest infection cleared up.
Last month this person contracted coronavirus in her care home and her family were shocked to discover that DNR (do not resuscitate) had been added to her records at her care home. The family knew nothing about this. Sadly this resident died in her care home.
Today it has been admitted that people in care homes in Scotland suffering from coronavirus were treated in their care home instead of being transferred to hospital to avoid overwhelming the NHS.
In my opinion it is ridiculous that politicians and health officials at NHS Scotland have given up on care home residents and left them to die from coronavirus because they are old.
When this pandemic is over there should be a full public inquiry investigating why it was decided that care home residents suffering from coronavirus would be treated in their care home instead of transferring them to their local hospital.
9 residents of the care home on Skye might never have died if they had been transferred by air ambulance helicopter to Raigmore Hospital in Inverness for expert treatment.
Health is a devolved matter at the Scottish Parliament. Nicola Sturgeon is the First Minister of Scotland and she should be ‘carrying the can’ for the decision not to transfer care home residents suffering from coronavirus to their local hospital for treatment which might have saved their life.

[islaydarkblue]

Yep, keep asking the same questions and they keep getting the same non answers. Latest one is kids going to school and still the solution is to expect them to socially isolate. No PPE for teachers. Read that the 1918 flu was in 2 waves. First wave left the kids alone and hit the elderly, second wave hit the kids hard. Seems to me we need something other than social isolation to help kids back k into school.

The teaching unions are complaining that the schools are not prepared for re-opening and in Scotland should not re-open until the start of the new school year in the middle of August.
However the unions conveniently forget to mention that teachers are currently teaching special needs pupils and pupils of key workers at elected schools throughout each Scottish local authority including Dundee.
It would be a different story if the teachers were not receiving full pay from their local authority. Then they would be desperate to get back to work instead of having a nice long 5 months holiday.

[Deeranged]

Last Thursday evening I watched the disclosures programme on BBC1 Scotland last Monday which I had recorded as it was on at the same time as Coronation Street.
It was reported that a care home resident had in January 2020 been admitted to hospital suffering from a chest infection and returned to her care home when her chest infection cleared up.
Last month this person contracted coronavirus in her care home and her family were shocked to discover that DNR (do not resuscitate) had been added to her records at her care home. The family knew nothing about this. Sadly this resident died in her care home.
Today it has been admitted that people in care homes in Scotland suffering from coronavirus were treated in their care home instead of being transferred to hospital to avoid overwhelming the NHS.
In my opinion it is ridiculous that politicians and health officials at NHS Scotland have given up on care home residents and left them to die from coronavirus because they are old.
When this pandemic is over there should be a full public inquiry investigating why it was decided that care home residents suffering from coronavirus would be treated in their care home instead of transferring them to their local hospital.
9 residents of the care home on Skye might never have died if they had been transferred by air ambulance helicopter to Raigmore Hospital in Inverness for expert treatment.
Health is a devolved matter at the Scottish Parliament. Nicola Sturgeon is the First Minister of Scotland and she should be ‘carrying the can’ for the decision not to transfer care home residents suffering from coronavirus to their local hospital for treatment which might have saved their life.

Have to agree with you Islay. It was made pretty clear from the start that the Westminster policy was to lose some elderly people in order to let the virus 'burn itself out' however this was never the Scottish policy that I can recall. someone made that decision and needs to be held to account; you can't discriminate against people because of their age and most certainly not at government level.

The whole idea of allowing it to run rampant through care homes is appalling to me. Now Westminster wants English kids to go back to school almost unprotected - it's like they want rid of the elements of the community that can't contribute to the economy; or am I being overly cynical?

[Deeranged]

The teaching unions are complaining that the schools are not prepared for re-opening and in Scotland should not re-open until the start of the new school year in the middle of August.
However the unions conveniently forget to mention that teachers are currently teaching special needs pupils and pupils of key workers at elected schools throughout each Scottish local authority including Dundee.
It would be a different story if the teachers were not receiving full pay from their local authority. Then they would be desperate to get back to work instead of having a nice long 5 months holiday.

Teachers do like their time off Islay but I feel you're being a bit harsh here. Kids won't socially distance and if schools were reopened fully they would spread the virus like wildfire amongst themselves. As BCram says history suggests that a second wave could have a devastating effect on the young rather than the older population - presumambly because older people will have more mature immune systems with greater ability to build up resistance to viruses - and it could get nasty for them.

My suggestion would be to insist that teachers partake in community work whilst off. They couls be helping with delivering food packages to the isolated elderly people in the community for example.

Or they could paint my fence for me, I'm pissed off doing it already.

[Returnofrros]

Public v private employment split.

Any criticism of public employment at the moment is akin to blasphemy in the 17th century.

Total lockdown is a joke, sturgeon I denial that a lot of people are just ignoring her and certain public employees know their jobs will be there at the end of this are encouraging the ubber cautious approach.

[BCram]

My worry is that lockdown is the simple and effective answer but only for a short period. We cannot carry on like this and we need a new idea. I am afraid my only idea is to kit everyone out with some form of face mask, PPE. We need everyone back working. I don't know the costs of PPE but I think that's a route we should consider.
Doctors and nurses can survive the most infectious environments with full PPE. Surely getting everyone kitted out with effective PPE that copes with the much less challenging conditions on public transport and work places is the way ahead. That and testing seem to me to be a much better way of moving forward.