OT Cummings Press Statement

[mistaram]

I agree, of course it stinks.
The man is an idiot.

But I'll say it again. He isn't on his own is he?
Kinnock/Ali/ Gething all are MP's that have been rumbled.
Yet the hounding of one man is getting farcical now. Those reporters and rent a mob left, outside his house was farcical.
So is this really all about breaking Corona, or the fact it is Cummings and some folk have an axe to grind?
My money is on the latter, as all West minster goers would get this.

Ah Tricky so come out with rubbish " Those reporters and rent a mob left ffs Those stories and photographs are in every paper today including your loving Express ,Telegraph ,Observer even the far right wing Daily Fail

[Geoff Parkstone]

Ah Tricky so come out with rubbish " Those reporters and rent a mob left ffs Those stories and photographs are in every paper today including your loving Express ,Telegraph ,Observer even the far right wing Daily Fail

I'm not sure pictures are in the Observer today, as its only printed on a Sunday..........

[Ram59]

It stinks, MA. I don’t believe a word of it...who, in their right mind, makes a 60 mile round trip to a local beauty spot - which is in the general direction of his journey home - to test his fitness to drive, and why couldn’t his wife have driven anyway?
Still if the press aren’t investigative enough to ask such questions it’s no wonder the world is stuck with the leaders we’re lumbered with.

If there was no local alternative child support and he could get to Durham without stopping at services, I have no problem.

Where I do have a problem is when he claims to be having trouble with his eyesight and drives a car to test it, unbelievable.

Also, I could accept the test drive to assess his fitness to drive the 5 hour journey BUT he should have driven laps on local roads for an hour, so that he was never more than a couple of miles away, in case he was took ill
You don't drive one direction 30 miles away.

Let's face it, he went on a jolly with the family, which was clearly in breach of guidelines at the time.

Trouble is with sacking him, would any of these reasons be enough, at a tribunal?

[Ram59]

[QUOTE=MadAmster;39501364]I think any parent can get their head around the idea of someone "doing what's best for a child". Having said that, nobody involved has explained why the wife's sister, 2 miles down the road, apparently, wasn't a viable option..... and even that would have been against the government's instructions.

You keep on about the wife's sister down the road, but she may be an alcoholic psychopath or may need to be shielded or someone in the household could be in a similar position.

You would hardly be expected to volunteer such information.

[Ram59]

Just checked, his constituency is in south birmingham, he has two homes in east birmingham, sutton coldfield is nroth birmingham and sandwell is in the black country in north west of birmingham.

Assuming he went from home, its probably a 30 mile trip (Ram59 can no doubt give a better estimate).

Yes, that's about right, but it's not enough to check your eyesight.

[Trickytreesreds]

Ah Tricky so come out with rubbish " Those reporters and rent a mob left ffs Those stories and photographs are in every paper today including your loving Express ,Telegraph ,Observer even the far right wing Daily Fail

Only one talking bollox here sunshine, put your red blinkers back on if you wish.
https://www.lbc.co.uk/radio/presente...minic-cumming/

[ramAnag]

Why don't you? Didn't the Guardian cover it? I wonder why?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-englan...ngham-52154327

No idea whether the Guardian covered it or not. Probably did.
Neither am I sure which bit of ‘seems ridiculous and equally wrong’ you don’t understand.

I do recognise ‘deflection’ when I see it though, so on a thread entitled ‘Cummings Press Statement’ should we stick to that?
Then if you want to start a similar thread about ‘Ali Funeral Statement’ that’s up to you.

In the meantime...when someone helps design a slogan telling everyone to ‘Stay at Home’, ‘Protect the NHS’, ‘Save Lives’, maybe, just maybe, he should abide by it, and reconsider the wisdom of - while allegedly suffering from Covid-19 - travelling 260 miles to his elderly parents farm because his wife had thrown up and he didn’t feel very well, and then going for a thirty mile jaunt to a local beauty spot to sit by the river and check his eyesight.

[Trickytreesreds]

No idea whether the Guardian covered it or not. Probably did.
Neither am I sure which bit of ‘seems ridiculous and equally wrong’ you don’t understand.

I do recognise ‘deflection’ when I see it though, so on a thread entitled ‘Cummings Press Statement’ should we stick to that?
Then if you want to start a similar thread about ‘Ali Funeral Statement’ that’s up to you.

In the meantime...when someone helps design a slogan telling everyone to ‘Stay at Home’, ‘Protect the NHS’, ‘Save Lives’, maybe, just maybe, he should abide by it, and reconsider the wisdom of - while allegedly suffering from Covid-19 - travelling 260 miles to his elderly parents farm because his wife had thrown up and he didn’t feel very well, and then going for a thirty mile jaunt to a local beauty spot to sit by the river and check his eyesight.

RA, i concur with a lot about what you've said. But why just Cummings?
You do not have to explain to me what he did. I know and don't agree with it. Some can/will argue his reasons were valid.
I don't.
But there is a bigger picture here and all I see is a witch hunt. Technically, he did nothing wrong. Moralistically, yes he did.
But there is a delight in hounding him, with the ommitence of every other offender going.

Even Kinnock, he travelled because it was his dads birthday? Good reason? I don't think so.
Sorry, but it smacks of axe to grind.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Lc86JUAwwg

[ramAnag]

Tricky, I don’t care who they go after. If people broke the rules that’s their problem and I speak as someone who missed one of my son’s ‘landmark’ birthdays recently because I followed the rules.

In Kinnock’s case it seems he journeyed to his father’s home and socially distanced in the front garden. He was wrong, but he didn’t believe he had Coronavirus and he didn’t make any secret of it. Neither, as an opposition MP, was he a fundamental part of the rule/slogan making process.

We’re going round and round in circles and frankly it’s become very boring, but I’ll just add this point of information.
This afternoon I had cause to drive through Matlock Bath and to Chatsworth. The obvious question at both places was ‘lockdown...what lockdown?’
I don’t know to what extent the two are linked, but I suspect Cummings’ behaviour has left people thinking that if the ‘elite’ don’t have to stay at home or alert then neither do they.

[mistaram]

I'm not sure pictures are in the Observer today, as its only printed on a Sunday..........

By its Sunday then 😂😂