O/T:- Should he stay or should he go? WARNING - POLITICAL THREAD!!!!

[pingu_pie]

This^^^

If we're gonna be fair/even handed, let's be.

But if we're gonna hound one who 'broke' the rules and pooh-pooh the others, well, we all know what happens if you pooh pooh a good pooh poohing.

Which is all fine, and they should receive censure too.

The reason there isn't as great an outcry over them, however, is that it isn't a Labour or SNP group leading the country. It's hard to understand how people can't comprehend that fundamental difference. People are angrier at him because they've read Animal Farm, basically.

Cummings is one of those who wrote the damn rules, and then he (at the very least) twisted them by going to Durham and ending up in a hospital 260 miles away - this is exactly why stay at home was in place. As Mapperley put, the Barnard Castle part is pure BS, you have to be absolutely desperate to not criticise him in order to buy that lawyered up excuse. He took the family out for his wife's birthday. He broke the rules he and his mates wrote.

Even then, if he had had the grace to apologise and admit he F'ed up, this would have gone away by now.

They are treating everyone like mugs. It doesn't come down to Tory v Labour any more, it comes down to whether you think you are worth enough to expect better, or if you just want to be said mug.

[Disturbed]

The Blackford story is Brietbart Bullsh!t. And even if it wasn’t, he wasn’t one of the key people who helped devise and implement the government’s virus strategy. Catherine Calderwood and Neil Ferguson had to resign. For stuff like the track and trace to work, the public has to have confidence that everyone is sticking to the same rules. I don’t know why this is hard to understand.

Cummings broke the rules and then tried to cover it up with a cock and bull story that only an idiot would believe. As I said before, we should all be worried about why Johnson is so keen to keep him.

That story says that he carried the virus to Skye and that is more than likely not true, but the truth is, and can not be disputed, is that he drove 600 miles and went in to isolation. Why didn't he do that in his London home? as he had no kids to look after.

So it is ok for him to drive 600 miles during lockdown? is that what you are saying?

This is not about Boris or Cummings, but about Blackford and if he should resign for doing what Cummings did and that is drive for many hours during lockdown?

[Mapperleypie]

That story says that he carried the virus to Skye and that is more than likely not true, but the truth is, and can not be disputed, is that he drove 600 miles and went in to isolation. Why didn't he do that in his London home? as he had no kids to look after.

So it is ok for him to drive 600 miles during lockdown? is that what you are saying?

This is not about Boris or Cummings, but about Blackford and if he should resign for doing what Cummings did and that is drive for many hours during lockdown?

The whataboutery is strong on this one.

You might remember the slogan, Stay At Home, Save Lives, Protect the NHS - Cummings was on the committee that wrote that was he not? And yet it was beneath him to follow it whilst he or his wife were actually displaying COVID symptoms (if that is the truth - not even sure he knows anymore).

Now we are being asked to stay at home for 14 days should we get a message from the very same government even if we have no symptoms - can you not see that what Cummings has done is a direct risk to public health?

[Disturbed]

The whataboutery is strong on this one.

You might remember the slogan, Stay At Home, Save Lives, Protect the NHS - Cummings was on the committee that wrote that was he not? And yet it was beneath him to follow it whilst he or his wife were actually displaying COVID symptoms (if that is the truth - not even sure he knows anymore).

Now we are being asked to stay at home for 14 days should we get a message from the very same government even if we have no symptoms - can you not see that what Cummings has done is a direct risk to public health?

Yes, what Cummings did was, but so are most of the other cases, but that is not my argument. My argument is that they should all resign or be fired as they all broke the rules (or bent them depending on which angle you look at it from) and no matter what, they all are in a position of power or influence and it should be one rule for all.

[drillerpie]

they all are in a position of power or influence

What power and influence has a Labour MP had on the lockdown rules compared to Cummings who quite literally devised them and wrote the slogans?

A better comparison would be with the other two people who were involved in devising the lockdown rules and both resigned as soon as it was reported they broke them.

[Mapperleypie]

What power and influence has a Labour MP had on the lockdown rules compared to Cummings who quite literally devised them and wrote the slogans?

A better comparison would be with the other two people who were involved in devising the lockdown rules and both resigned as soon as it was reported they broke them.

It's there for all to see.

The outright lies and the mental gymnastics that the prime minister and members of the cabinet have done in order to keep one man in his job at the expense of other peoples lives is a nothing short of a national disgrace. Anyone that cannot see this is quite frankly a thick tw@t.

[drillerpie]

It's there for all to see.

The outright lies and the mental gymnastics that the prime minister and members of the cabinet have done in order to keep one man in his job at the expense of other peoples lives is a nothing short of a national disgrace. Anyone that cannot see this is quite frankly a thick tw@t.

Most of the politicians sent out to defend him are privately briefing journalists that they're only doing it because they have to and they feel demaned and sullied by it.

[Disturbed]

What power and influence has a Labour MP had on the lockdown rules compared to Cummings who quite literally devised them and wrote the slogans?

A better comparison would be with the other two people who were involved in devising the lockdown rules and both resigned as soon as it was reported they broke them.

Emiliy Maitlis has influence by being a journalist, documentary filmmaker and newsreader for the BBC.
A MP has a vote on laws and they represent their constituents, so that is a position of power.

And if we are to do a comparison, then lets see compare what they did, not who they are and if they broke the rules/law, then they should resign or be fired no matter who they are.

[Mapperleypie]

Emiliy Maitlis has influence by being a journalist, documentary filmmaker and newsreader for the BBC.
A MP has a vote on laws and they represent their constituents, so that is a position of power.

And if we are to do a comparison, then lets see compare what they did, not who they are and if they broke the rules/law, then they should resign or be fired no matter who they are.

More whataboutery.

[Disturbed]

It's there for all to see.

The outright lies and the mental gymnastics that the prime minister and members of the cabinet have done in order to keep one man in his job at the expense of other peoples lives is a nothing short of a national disgrace. Anyone that cannot see this is quite frankly a thick tw@t.

100% agree but that same analysis should be applied to all and that is why all those mentioned on here should resign or be fired as they are all guilty and for those who understand, no explanation is needed. For those who do not understand, no explanation is possible