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Thread: Just remember black lives matter.

  1. #91
    I have been thinking about this and ask the question, "Was the unjustifiable homicide perpetrated on George Floyd the consequence of individual racism by one rogue cop or institutional racism within the ranks of the US State and Federal police?"

    If it's the latter the US is in BIG trouble, because the Trump administration have no inclination whatsoever to get to grips with it.

    I am totally certain if a President of the greatest military power on earth can openly express prejudice, hate and bias based on race, we all have a problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Bedlington Terrier View Post
    I have been thinking about this and ask the question, "Was the unjustifiable homicide perpetrated on George Floyd the consequence of individual racism by one rogue cop or institutional racism within the ranks of the US State and Federal police?"

    If it's the latter the US is in BIG trouble, because the Trump administration have no inclination whatsoever to get to grips with it.

    I am totally certain if a President of the greatest military power on earth can openly express prejudice, hate and bias based on race, we all have a problem.
    Hardly one rogue cop BT.

    There were three more with him who knew exactly what was going on and they did nowt.

  3. #93
    Quote Originally Posted by 1959_60 View Post
    Hardly one rogue cop BT.

    There were three more with him who knew exactly what was going on and they did nowt.
    I was just looking for confirmation that institutional racism within the ranks of the US State and Federal police is rampant, but in reality that's exactly what the BLM movement is all about. Thanks 59er!

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Bedlington Terrier View Post
    I was just looking for confirmation that institutional racism within the ranks of the US State and Federal police is rampant, but in reality that's exactly what the BLM movement is all about. Thanks 59er!
    Yes, however, the BLM movement is now wanting funding withdrawn from our own police force and, by their actions, they will try to provoke our police into action against them just to try to prove a point.
    This is exactly why the Met Police and the Bristol Police acted with great restraint because BLM and all those who have now jumped on the bandwagon really wanted out police to react violently. Look how many cameras were around to catch the action!
    Instead, there were very few arrests and those injured were those trying to keep law and order.

    You can try to get rid of institutional racism, however, you can't control any one individual's thoughts. no matter what race or colour. Everybody is different and some will think for themselves and make up their own mind, however, there are many who will follow the herd and react like the rest of the herd. There is certainly no easy answer.

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    Heard today on the Welsh news that Colston's statue is to be recovered,repaired and placed in a museum alongside placards from the BLM
    movement.This seems an eminently sensible solution.We had an Empire once and were proud of it,that is part of our history and you can't change that.We should learn from history but sadly that is not often the case.

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    Quote Originally Posted by army88 View Post
    I just find I infuriating that they don’t learn a balanced view before blurting out if you not with us your racist

    Take today’s issue Yorkshire Tea ( newspapers today). They’re on it and they have been exploiting black people for hundreds of years, I have no problem with people wanting equality and all I can do
    Is my bit not be racist.
    I really do think the tragedy is they’ve opened the gap between people to create racism
    Not irradicate it.
    it's Social Engineering on steroids at the moment - Army.....stoked by the media cabal and those with a dominant interest in dividing the people - and rolling in more regimen - but am unsure about this Floyd malarkey, seems him and Chauvin had previously worked together as bouncers at a nightclub...and with other irregularities, makes me reach for the red flag....End of the day, and as with the Covid con, I think it's just another tick in the box for the Reset agenda - part of the social cleansing exercise, a war on personal identity, free will and self-expression.
    As for this ethnic/ race angle.....it means little to me, as all I care about - is an Individuals nature...them being kind hearted and understanding etc , as skin colour doesn't stop anyone from being a nasty ass.






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    I dug this one out of the archives. When we have a Prime Minister who can create sentences like this, what chance do we have to end racism in this country?

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  8. #98
    On the other hand, he hates all of the working class and does not mind a jot whether we are either black or white...

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    There are probably a lot more examples on Facebook BT which is why I am steering well clear of commenting on that forum. Just throwing punches does not however actually constitute a debate in my opinion and it is a proper debate we are all want to see and need. I was for example educated in Portsmouth and Nelson is in very many ways a hero. I accept however that he is also a flawed character in both his private and public life. Do we just topple Nelson’s column and say that is a sound historical judgement? I don’t like Boris Johnson but a lot of people voted for his party at the last election. How would you write about that say twenty years from now? I do not like Oliver Cromwell but his role in establishing the rule of Parliament was critical to this nation. Some sound and informed decisions will need to be reached not least on how we teach history in our schools but an atmosphere of witch hunts is not a good time for making those decisions. History teaches me that.

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    "Policing by consent" does not in my mind entitle unruly mobs to assault our police outwood. I read in the papers this morning of two officers being physically assaulted when on duty in London yesterday.

    Our Prime Minister and Home Secretary are noticeable by their absence. We now have football fans and the far right thugs "guarding" our cenotaphs and statues from BLM thugs. The "Law and Order" party have gone AWOL and it is not good enough. Nowhere near.

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