O/t bbc

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Agreed Mista, I was just pointing out that these 'civil disturbances' started with factions of the otherwise peaceful blm protesters and it didn't help when they weren't universally condemned.

We've even got people defending the Liverpool fans, it's alright though because they've had to wait 30 years. Bull****, there are a 100,000 Liverpool fans who celebrated properly and didn't drag down the name of the club.

The BBC and other media will repeatedly hound Johnson to condemn the likes of Cummings, yet they let leaders of these groups of thugs off lightly.

So we agree that it was the ‘right wing fascists’ who created most of the ‘rioting’ problem.

I agree with you about the behaviour of Liverpool fans, both the majority and the more media attractive minority.

The difference between Johnson and Cummings, compared with the ‘leaders of these groups of thugs’, is that the former are meant to be real leaders who set an example. They have palpably failed imo, and I can’t help but feel that the behaviour of the not so great British public has deteriorated significantly since the Durham fiasco and the emergence of a more obvious ‘one rule for them’ mentality.

Andy...I’ve never been on Facebook in my life so I wouldn’t know.
Suffice it to say...I don’t support any of the aims you described and I’m puzzled. As ever I take notice of what you write, but as far as the better known and perhaps original aims are concerned I support the BLM movement.

[Trickytreesreds]

So we agree that it was the ‘right wing fascists’ who created most of the ‘rioting’ problem.



Andy...I’ve never been on Facebook in my life so I wouldn’t know.
Suffice it to say...I don’t support any of the aims you described and I’m puzzled. As ever I take notice of what you write, but as far as the better known and perhaps original aims are concerned I support the BLM movement.

I wouldn't argue with you on that RA. But who has decided what the real aims are?
The ones organising these protests, seem to be using the sentiments of opinions like yours, whilst having a completely different agenda.
It seems I'm afraid to not be about equality or tolerence. It's what certian anarchists want it to be and what the press are pushing by distorting stories.

Remember the Florida massacre in the gay club? The LGBT community were outraged and fueled by the press in what was deemed a terrorism attack on gay people. Being the US made it even sweeter for them.

Recently we had the Reading murders. I only found out 2 days ago, that all 3 men were gay?
No outrage, no demos, no fury.
Why? Well for me, the fact a BLM rally had been held there earlier and the attacker was a Muslim was an inconvenient truth.
It was hushed up and hardly mentioned. It isn't the first time.
The press are playing a strange game at the moment. They love whipping people up, for demo's. If its a minority/anti Tory/Anti US demos, then great. If the right have one, it's an affront of moral outrage.
Here's one I remember from a year ago, ash Sakar about Trump. Her hypocrisy is hilarious.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jNFOVkB6JjQ&t=15s
Piers Morgan ffs

[Trickytreesreds]

So we agree that it was the ‘right wing fascists’ who created most of the ‘rioting’ problem.

I agree with you about the behaviour of Liverpool fans, both the majority and the more media attractive minority.

The difference between Johnson and Cummings, compared with the ‘leaders of these groups of thugs’, is that the former are meant to be real leaders who set an example. They have palpably failed imo, and I can’t help but feel that the behaviour of the not so great British public has deteriorated significantly since the Durham fiasco and the emergence of a more obvious ‘one rule for them’ mentality.

Andy...I’ve never been on Facebook in my life so I wouldn’t know.
Suffice it to say...I don’t support any of the aims you described and I’m puzzled. As ever I take notice of what you write, but as far as the better known and perhaps original aims are concerned I support the BLM movement.

RA I think you have to re examine that whole situation.
1. The BLM protests were allowed in very low key circumstances
2. The police wore normal kit and kept a distance
3. It didn't stop an element looking for something to "kick off" For you to say it was peaceful and all right wing is wrong on so many levels.
It started peaceful but went down hill. Here is someones video walking with them. It doesn't even show the monument assualts, which should have engaged the police due to criminal damage. But they didn't.
4. The "far right" as you call it was mainly ex service men and a few old age football hooligans. However the press loved bigging that one up
5. The cops come out in force and full battle gear. It was squashed as I would expected the other protests to be, but weren't.

Here's the video done, didn't look peaceful to me.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7gwU-Qop24