O/T Coronavirus Thread (4)

[ragingpup]

It's okay. John has deemed that a single incidence of 250 people gathering together indoors will clearly not be responsible for the spike in Blackburn.

Have you deemed that it is responsible for the spike Kerr?

[great_fire]

Police aren't investigating the mosque and say it's a "public health issue."

Could have sworn I've previously seen them harassing dog walkers, sunbathers, people buying Easter eggs and people sitting on benches.

[KerrAvon]

I would have thought that the virus, if present, would be widely spread around the interiors of everything that the thousands touched and shared with the whole town population who in turn would have been very present on the beach and using the facilities. A virus doesn't distinguish between day trippers and locals, there would have been a huge spreadaround and remnants left in the locality as well as it taken back with them.

Agreed on the irresponsibility of the funeral organisers though.

The risk was certainly from any shared facilities that were in use as opposed to sitting on the beach. Those risks would have been reduced if people were using appropriate personal hygeine. As for infecting the townsfolk, I would have thought that minimal. Pubs, cafes and restaurants would have been closed. Local grocery shops would have seen incresaed footfall from anyone who didn't bring their pack up with them.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-53459596

[KerrAvon]

Have you deemed that it is responsible for the spike Kerr?

No, I'm like John - hopelessly lacking in the qualifications and experience needed to assess the risk, even if my first degree included a year of microbiology and half a year of mathematical modelling in biological systems.

[John2]

No, I'm like John - hopelessly lacking in the qualifications and experience needed to assess the risk, even if my first degree included a year of microbiology and half a year of mathematical modelling in biological systems.

I'm at a loss to what point you are trying to make, you seem to be in the habit of just ignoring the actual meat and bones of my responses to you and are now just passively sidestepping with irrelevant side arguments where its unclear the purpose.

I've made no assessment of the risk of that incident, you have rightly pointed out I am unqualified to do so. But I am sufficiently capable of assessing that one incident alone will not be solely responsible, wouldn't you agree?

[WanChaiMiller]

It's funny how some of the same people who got upset about Cummings are willing to dismiss the risks that would be associated with 250 people attending a funeral. Can you explain it?

Lol. This is the bloke weaning himself off MM due to petty squabbling.

[KerrAvon]

I'm at a loss to what point you are trying to make, you seem to be in the habit of just ignoring the actual meat and bones of my responses to you and are now just passively sidestepping with irrelevant side arguments where its unclear the purpose.

I've made no assessment of the risk of that incident, you have rightly pointed out I am unqualified to do so. But I am sufficiently capable of assessing that one incident alone will not be solely responsible, wouldn't you agree?

You have made no assessment of the risk of that incident? I will quote you to avoid the usual claim of misrepresentation and to demonstrate that *coughs* you clearly did:

In my post here, I have not condoned the funeral. It was wrong and shouldn't have happened. However I used sarcasm to illustrate that clearly this single incident will not be responsible for the spike in Blackburn, which clearly it isn't.

[ragingpup]

No, I'm like John - hopelessly lacking in the qualifications and experience needed to assess the risk, even if my first degree included a year of microbiology and half a year of mathematical modelling in biological systems.

Me neither. But you seem to have no issue with people making assumptions about who to blame for the spike despite them being as little informed as we are. Yet you're all over anyone who questions the lack of evidence for their claim. I thought you were all about evidence? Or do only lefties need evidence?

[CAMiller]

No

High number of Asians, or high number of eastern Europeans raises the covid risk factor dramatically.

They are cultures that don't give a toss and carry on as they always have, mosque or no mosque

It's funny Grist but there is a large contingent of Asian and Eastern Europeans here working for Amazon, Microsoft....etc. and there have been no such problems. I'm guessing other social-economic factors are at play when you live in (or more accurately don't live in) $1M+ homes.

[KerrAvon]

Me neither. But you seem to have no issue with people making assumptions about who to blame for the spike despite them being as little informed as we are. Yet you're all over anyone who questions the lack of evidence for their claim. I thought you were all about evidence? Or do only lefties need evidence?

I wasn't the person who made an assessment of the risk associated with the alleged Blackburn funeral. John did. Surely it is people making claims who need to be able to evidence them? Or is your argument that only people from the left can make unevidenced assertions to advance their agendas?

If I had claimed that the allaged Blackburn funeral clearly (to use John's word) caused a spike then you might have a point, but I didn't, which is why you don't. I appreciate that won't stop your sealioning.