Dealing with inept people!

[boingy]

Decent graduate schemes Boingy with large powerful blue chip companies recruit grads to spend three years working in all departments such as marketing, new product development, purchasing, commercial, operations, customer focus, customer service to get an in depth knowledge of the whole business and then they are fast tracked to the top. I knew a grad years ago and now he's the CEO of a multi national company who turn over many millions - you knew from day one he was going to make it to the top - he was that good and his brain was always top notch. I agree about experience but we are talking about different things - a qualified buyer ( CIPS ) for example usually aspires to become a purchasing director but tends to keep to the role which matches their qualifications. Aldi and some other supermarkets/stores start their grads on over 40K for a reason after 4/5 hard interviews ( one with a board director ) so usually they go on to succeed. Most decent grad schemes won't look at anything less than a 2.1 and with 3000 applicants for less than 20 jobs - it's unlikely they would select an idiot which is why they have a specialized grad recruitment teams and get a director involved.

There are many small companies now though who take on what they call "graduates" and this is just a title and not the same, and in many cases an apprentice could do better. This is probably what you refer to.

I think you’ve overplayed the Graduates theme.

[baggieal]

I think you’ve overplayed the Graduates theme.

Not really Boingy. I did not get the opportunities to go to university or private school but good luck to those that do! Too many are resentful because they didn’t get the same opportunities and take the view - “ I did well enough “

Sadly with many professional occupations if you don’t go to university you can’t hope to get into the career of your dreams. I do agree though - some who go to university or have top A Levels have no common sense - our Prime Minister is the prime example. Boris is awful at public speaking and at times the hands do the talking but he’s far from stupid if you know his background!

Horses for courses! If I wanted manual hard graft I would employ someone who is highly motivated with a strong work ethic! If I wanted a professional person to analyse data to work out thousands of pounds in price changes then I would recruit somebody who is proven with relevant qualifications which comes at a cost!

[boingy]

Not really Boingy. I did not get the opportunities to go to university or private school but good luck to those that do! Too many are resentful because they didn’t get the same opportunities and take the view - “ I did well enough “

Sadly with many professional occupations if you don’t go to university you can’t hope to get into the career of your dreams. I do agree though - some who go to university or have top A Levels have no common sense - our Prime Minister is the prime example. Boris is awful at public speaking and at times the hands do the talking but he’s far from stupid if you know his background!

Horses for courses! If I wanted manual hard graft I would employ someone who is highly motivated with a strong work ethic! If I wanted a professional person to analyse data to work out thousands of pounds in price changes then I would recruit somebody who is proven with relevant qualifications which comes at a cost!

I still know what I'm saying Al.

[baggieal]

I still know what I'm saying Al.

Perhaps, you have met different " grads " to me. The two grads I knew are now CEO'S of multi national companies and are as bright as buttons hence why they are driving these companies forward. I am talking many many millions in turnover. So your general statement is flawed.

There are people with zero common sense in all walks of life. Boris does not come across with any common sense but hey - he was appointed into that position for a reason.