Refugees or Illegal immigrants..?

[The Bedlington Terrier]

We took in the Abedi family as refugees and they repaid us with the Arena massacre. That should not be the yardstick of how we deal with refugees but it certainly can’t be ignored either.

That was a tragedy beyond mine and many other peoples imagination outwood. I have no idea how we can even begin to legislate for that kind of evil.

Radicalized Muslims are a serious threat to our very existence outwood and the far right bang that particular drum whenever they get the opportunity.

We are living in very dark times and we need serious, intelligent leadership and we have ended up with these clowns par excellence...

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[Supersub6]

What's your fixation with Blair, Supersub6?
Me and a lot of other Labour Party members disowned this fraudulent charlatan a long time ago. In my opinion the man is a war criminal who took this nation and invaded another sovereign nation on a falsehood and a fraudster in the sense he pretended to be a socialist. Socialist my arse.

BT --you answered your own question.
As an ex-serviceman and with family ties to the Armed Forces continuously since 1914, through grandparents, uncles, cousins, parents, self, wife and a son, who has been serving for over 30 years, he proved himself to be exactly as you say as far as his being a war criminal.
However, I can pass no comment on his pretending to be a socialist except to say that I no longer know what constitutes 'being a socialist'. As leader of the Labour Party, his party were elected by Socialists in 1997 and had a majority of 179 seats. He was then re-elected twice more, by Socailists, in 2001 and 2005 and remained as PM until 2007, therefore, your claim that a lot of Labour Party members disowned him does not really ring true because when he invaded Iraq in 2003 he had a Parliamentary majority of 167 and he succeeded at the next election, held in 2005, with a majority of 66 seats.

When you join our Armed Forces, which these days is your own choice, you are aware that you can be asked to do whatever is necessary to protect the interests of your country and you do as you are bid. However, what Blair did was criminal and he has been feathering his nest ever since -----in true socialist fashion? Now you know why I dislike Blair immensely and everything which he stands for ----and he is still a socialist!

[The Bedlington Terrier]

He is not a socialist Supersub, never was, never will be, he is a political opportunist like the Brylcreamed Sh-ithouse who is the current leader of the Labour Party. Those of us who finally realized what was happening with the Blairites/Starmer pact chucked in our membership cards and waved Auf Weidershen pet.

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[army88]

What I would like to know is what's wrong with France, or any of the other European countries they pass through on their way here ? I lived in France for 8 years, loved it, wouldn't have missed it for the world, but these people risk their lives to get out of France and come to England. Why, what have we got that France hasn't ?

And that really is the question Sinkov , the bigger picture is they will bypass numerous other countries because we are the softest touch known to man and they’re on a free meal ticket when they get here.

If I was a younger man I’d be long gone from our country as brilliant as I think it is.

I read with interest today about the Muslim lady cought cheating benefits she had 8 children but was also claiming for an uncle ( in Pakistan ) another family member ( also in Pakistan ) , and we ask why they want to come here ?

She was given a suspended sentence because of the kids 8 months and had to attend a rehabilitation course , I think because she was Muslim we don’t want to upset the multicultural balance of which there isn’t one being honest so she’s told off and walked free.( wow this is a great country ).

This country will be Muslim in the next 50 years

( and as I’ve said many times on here I’m not a racist man at all ) but I believe we are not far away from Muslim rule.

[alfinyalcabo]

I've been called a racist nanny tines on the footy boards over the years but I don't have a problem with anybody coming over here if they are willing to work for a living,are honest, abide by our laws and generally behave.. Believe me I know a lot of English low life's that were born here and should be exterminated ..

[sinkov]

Where does this "leftie" bullsh-it keep coming from? A Sudanese ****ager who disappeared at sea has been found dead on a beach near Calais on Wednesday morning, after trying to cross the Channel with another boy in an inflatable dinghy using shovels for oars.

How desperate do you have to be to try this?

Turns out this t-e-e-n ager was 28 years old, reminds me of those pictures of a couple of years ago, lines of supposed children arriving from the Syrian refugee camps, many of them with beards and moustaches.

How desperate indeed, I refer back to my previous question, what's so wrong with France that they're shovelling their way across the Channel in an inflatable dinghy ?

[sinkov]

A bit of info here. It may seem like there are loads of people trying to get to the UK, when in reality it is only a small fraction.

https://fullfact.org/immigration/why...-want-come-uk/

On their league table we're the 8th most attractive country out of 28 for migrants, which says it all really. The UK is the farthest one away, the most difficult by far for these people to reach, but they prefer this horrendously difficult journey across Europe and the English Channel to residing in 20 other European countries, all easier to reach.

So I'll have to expand my original question about France, why do these migrants prefer the UK to 20 other European countries, what have we got that they haven't ?

[The Bedlington Terrier]

On their league table we're the 8th most attractive country out of 28 for migrants, which says it all really. The UK is the farthest one away, the most difficult by far for these people to reach, but they prefer this horrendously difficult journey across Europe and the English Channel to residing in 20 other European countries, all easier to reach.

So I'll have to expand my original question about France, why do these migrants prefer the UK to 20 other European countries, what have we got that they haven't ?

But if they did their research sinkov, Mrs Merkel welcomes them with open arms and the German health, benefits and pension paradigm is in a different class to ours.

[sinkov]

But if they did their research sinkov, Mrs Merkel welcomes them with open arms and the German health, benefits and pension paradigm is in a different class to ours.

Which just makes it even more puzzling BT, why then are they risking life and limb to get to the UK, what is it we've got that Germany hasn't ?

[sinkov]

And in the meantime, while Lefty virtue-signallers continue to wring their hands, they continue to take the piss.

"A quarter of migrants and refugees who claim to be children after crossing the English Channel in small boats to reach Britain are in fact judged to be aged 18 or older, it can be revealed.
Age assessments carried out by social workers have concluded that around 25 percent of unaccompanied ‘child' migrants who make the crossing are older than they claim.
Many believe they will get preferential treatment if they are treated as children by the UK immigration authorities."