Cryne Family Statement

[animallittle3]

I think if Chien and the gang get their hands on 50% of the stadium and land it's clear we as fans are going to have to make it clear to Barnsley MBC in the strongest terms possible that they must never relinquish the 50% they hold .

The consequences of this consortium gaining full control of the stadium and land are more than concerning .

They may well say it's to fund the running of the club and what have you .... well they would ... wouldn't they ? .

I personally wouldn't take that risk in all honesty .

[SBRed48]

I think if Chien and the gang get their hands on 50% of the stadium and land it's clear we as fans are going to have to make it clear to Barnsley MBC in the strongest terms possible that they must never relinquish the 50% they hold .

The consequences of this consortium gaining full control of the stadium and land are more than concerning .

They may well say it's to fund the running of the club and what have you .... well they would ... wouldn't they ? .

I personally wouldn't take that risk in all honesty .

As you would expect Animal I concur with that.

Two things strike me with this carry on--

1. This Third Party and Restrictive Covenant thing going back nearly a 100 years whereby the Oakwell Ground and surrounding land can only be used for sporting and leisure purposes applies legally to the land, not the person/group who originally set it up who apparently are the original owners of Oakwell Brewery, is being used by Chien as the reason why they claim they were misled by the Crynes when they purchased Barnsley FC. Any local solicitor's clerk could have looked at the Land Registry Website and seen this covenant within a minute.

2, This so called "deception/ misleading" by the Crynes is being used by Chien's Chancers as a reason to welsch on the agreed payment schedule owed to the Crynes, even though they bought a debt free Championship club for only £8 million.

I have no respect whatsoever for Chien's/ Paul's actions. Chancers and Spivs are words that come to mind to me. I look forward to a second "Official Statement" explaining why agreed payments are not being paid, a fact not mentioned in the first Statement when we were encouraged to be part of "the Club's" fight, the owners and the fans fight, against the Crynes.

#Chien's Chancers--Summat's Not Reyt

[animallittle3]

As you would expect Animal I concur with that.

Two things strike me with this carry on--

1. This Third Party and Restrictive Covenant thing going back nearly a 100 years whereby the Oakwell Ground and surrounding land can only be used for sporting and leisure purposes applies legally to the land, not the person/group who originally set it up who apparently are the original owners of Oakwell Brewery, is being used by Chien as the reason why they claim they were misled by the Crynes when they purchased Barnsley FC. Any local solicitor's clerk could have looked at the Land Registry Website and seen this covenant within a minute.

2, This so called "deception/ misleading" by the Crynes is being used by Chien's chancers as a reason to welsch on the agreed payment schedule owed to the Crynes, even though they bought a debt free Championship club for only £8 million.

I have no respect whatsoever for Chien's/ Paul's actions. Chancers and Spivs are words that come to mind to me. I look forward to a second "Official Statement" explaining why agreed payments are not being paid, a fact not mentioned in the first Statement when we were encouraged to be part of "the Club's" fight against the Crynes.

It was fairly common knowledge within the town that there were restrictions on what you could do with the land surrounding Oakwell and what you couldn't .

As you say it wouldn't have taken much to find out from their side of things .

Everyone who buys a house or a piece of land has solicitors who do searches as part of the procedure , its standard practice .

Some saying on bbs that the Senior family who owned the brewery and put in the lands restriction has now passed and is irrelevant today .

I wouldn't be so sure myself , some of these old things still stack up today legally .

It's worth reminding ourselves that this club have experienced some tough financial times , we've nearly gone out of business four times in my time supporting the club and yet nobody flogged the land off which would have eased the financial strain , it would have been the easiest thing to do .

Nobody did and I reckon that's because the restrictions placed on the land makes it unlikely anyone would want it and it's probably not worth a great deal either because of the restrictions .

I could be wrong but it does make you wonder .

[SBRed48]

Agreed.

Just a note from when I was buying a house many years ago where there was a Restrictive Covenant that no industrial development could be built in the area the solicitor assured me that the Covenant applies to the land, irrespective of whether the original person or group who established the Covenant has passed away, unless the Covenant had been revoked, which in Oakwell's case it hasn't. Thankfully.

In any case if Chien's Chancers do get their hands on the Cryne's 50% they can't "develop" the Oakwell area how they wish because, as you say, the Council still have the other 50%. The very fact that Chien's Chancers are making such a big issue of this makes me wary of what their intentions were for the land. Some planned scheme has clearly been frustrated and it has angered them.

[animallittle3]

Agreed.

Just a note from when I was buying a house many years ago where there was a Restrictive Covenant that no industrial development could be built in the area the solicitor assured me that the Covenant applies to the land, irrespective of whether the original person or group who established the Covenant has passed away, unless the Covenant had been revoked, which in Oakwell's case it hasn't. Thankfully.

In any case if Chien's Chancers do get their hands on the Cryne's 50% they can't "develop" the Oakwell area how they wish because, as you say, the Council still have the other 50%. The very fact that Chien's Chancers are making such a big issue of this makes me wary of what their intentions were for the land. Some planned scheme has clearly been frustrated and it has angered them.

I'm almost certain in the mid 70's when we were at the bottom of the old fourth division and 3k war a good gate we tried flogging the Pontefract Road car park .

I'm sure it fell through because of this covenant .

Does thar recall it SB mi owd ?

[SBRed48]

I'm almost certain in the mid 70's when we were at the bottom of the old fourth division and 3k war a good gate we tried flogging the Pontefract Road car park .

I'm sure it fell through because of this covenant .

Does thar recall it SB mi owd ?

Am afraid not on that one Animal.

[SBRed48]

I have just had a look at BBS, It seems they are just catching up with Chien's activities at OGC Nice.

[animallittle3]

I have just had a look at BBS, It seems they are just catching up with Chien's activities at OGC Nice.

As a poster points out its they who have created the lack of trust .

A fundamental point to say the least .

It's fair enough judging them on their tenure here which to be fair whilst isn't great isn't a total disaster either to be fair .

However look at OGC Nice and what they are capable of .

That's the real concern and where the lack of trust exists .

[Jules88]

Did they leave OCG worse than they found them? Regardless of what they made? Just asking..... as don’t really know,

[SBRed48]

Did they leave OCG worse than they found them? Regardless of what they made? Just asking..... as don’t really know,

Despite claiming to fans he was there for the long term Chien only lasted three years from 2016 to 2019 in which time he

1 Oversaw the club's decline from being a Champions League club when he arrived to not qualifying for any European competition in his last two years

2 Stripped the club of its best players such as St Maximin, Seri, Plea, Balotelli, Dalbert, Mendy, Sneijder, Maupay, Benrahma replacing
them with younger, cheaper players accumulating a transfer surplus of £41 million over two years which became difficult to find in the accounts.

3 Alienated the fan base because of the above, poor communication, and falling out with long standing 20% owner Rivere who had slowly built up the club prior to 2016

4 Suddenly sold the club he had bought for £20/30 million for £90/100 million leaving the club to rebuild itself.

Apart from the above a model owner