Transfer in's and out's rumours etc.

[hopelesslyoptimistic]

Yet again you challenge people and then go for the sympathy vote by referring to the number of times you get called names. Maybe treat other people how you would like to be treated as a starting point. You dish it out but then cry foul if you goad people to respond in kind.

I am pretty sure you are in a minority of one on this one so maybe let it go?

If you genuinely have the outlook you express on here I feel sorry for you that your glass has barely any liquid in it all let alone being half empty.

[asturianblanco]

showing yourself up again. Valencia are a big club, traditionally top 4, La liga IS as good as the Prem.

[WTF11]

Yet again you challenge people and then go for the sympathy vote by referring to the number of times you get called names. Maybe treat other people how you would like to be treated as a starting point. You dish it out but then cry foul if you goad people to respond in kind.

I am pretty sure you are in a minority of one on this one so maybe let it go?

If you genuinely have the outlook you express on here I feel sorry for you that your glass has barely any liquid in it all let alone being half empty.

Not "going for the sympathy vote", in any way shape or form, simply stating that being called names may have gotten a rise out of me before, but not this time. I wish you would stop ascribing motive where there is none, simple statement of fact.

I treat others with respect, I don't "goad" them (you included) simply challenge their opinions and the basis for them, very rarely call them names (and will endeavour never to do so in the future), admit when I'm wrong, and I "dish it out" as you put it, in more moderate terms than most when they respond to my posts (and as I say, names will not be called in future)

Since when did you think that being in a minority of one was of any consequence in me arriving at my own opinions? If they concur with others, so be it, if they don't I'm equally sanguine. And my outlook? My outlook on Leeds is pretty clear, and you and others may or may not believe that I'm a true Leeds supporter, that's your perogative, and I really don't care one way or another, I know I am, and have the scars (both mental and physical) to prove it. My outlook on other matters isn't relevant (or reflected) here.

We will see whether Rodrigo turns out to be the player you hope for, and others consider him to be, or not.

[asturianblanco]

Cock.

[WTF11]

showing yourself up again. Valencia are a big club, traditionally top 4, La liga IS as good as the Prem.

You're entitled to your opinion.

[WTF11]

showing yourself up again. Valencia are a big club, traditionally top 4, La liga IS as good as the Prem.

The statistics would tend to suggest otherwise.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...tition_winners

As I suggested in a previous post, the skew in La Liga towards the two Madrid Clubs and Barcelona is massive. Fair do's though "Spanish clubs are the most successful in UEFA competitions, with a total of 61 titles, and hold a record number of wins in the European Cup/UEFA Champions League (18), UEFA Super Cup (15), and UEFA Cup/UEFA Europa league (12).[9]" (Quote from Wikipedia), but.......44 of that number were achieved by those three I mentioned.

There are 13 English clubs with a claim on the table, sharing 43 "credits".

(You could say the same about Italian clubs, given that their 47 credits came via 11 clubs, and Germany, where 10 clubs were able to achieve 31 credits)

Point being, yes, there are some super clubs in La Liga, but the standard drops considerably once you get outside the top 4, whereas in the PL, (and Serie A and the Bundesliga) there are successes from clubs throughout the table.

Oh and by the way, Valencias average end position since the last time they won La Liga (in 2003) is 6th.

[hopelesslyoptimistic]

Wow just wow

[Billyni]

Cock.

Have we signed him yet?

[Jezleeds]

Have we signed him yet?

[asturianblanco]

Have we signed him yet?

wheres the like button!