O/T:- Defund the bbc.

[seriouspie]

You don't need to be left or right wing to come to that conclusion, you just need a single brain cell.

If any of our Boris lovers can offer a reasoned argument that the Tories have handled the Covid-19 crisis and education well, I'd love to read it.

I'll answer Elite .... you know I usually do. Easy to condemn in hindsight is my answer.

You are not an unintelligent bloke ...... just someone with a hatred of the Tories, much as I hate the far left 'progressive Lefties' (laugh).

Everything you opine on is anti Tory but it doesn't make a jot of difference does it? Just the endless rhetoric which achieves nothing because
your crew have only 4 years to wait before you have another go (chuckle) and I'm sure Boris will have sorted things by then. Easy to criticise every Boris blunder isn't it because your Socialist rabble can't do anything but criticise .... they've no decisions to make have they?
Big difference between taking responsibility and those that criticise without making the decisions you know. Yes, Yes, I know all the Tory failings but success often comes by learning from those mistakes.

So concentrate on your ambition to grow a 3lb onion .... it's not a big deal my pal tells me if you follow advice. Keep smiling youth and dream of the catastrophic food shortages, road blocks, shortage of medical equipment Blah Blah that will happen when we leave your beloved EU. By the way, what happened to the Irish backstop - Jesus wept it's tough being a socialist in Britain isn't it!

[EwarWooWar]

i961 pie, black bess & Mr Serious. There's no doubt that no one fillets politicians better than Andrew Neil, but he only does it in terms of their competency; hardly ever on account of their policies.
He is, of course, a rank right-winger as was displayed in his years as Editor of the Sunday Times. It would be very interesting if he was to subject his Uncle Rupert to the same incendiary treatment that he might give someone like Corbyn.
And yet, remember that the disgustingly left-wing BBC frequently employs him. Now what's all that about?
Please give a read to this piece by Owen Jones (yes, I know) if you think you're strong enough. Also recommended for the reverse WASP.

https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...media-politics

I find it laughable that you think Owen Jones is a credible source. He is a political activist first and foremost using a journalist position to push his hard left agenda. Andrew Neil is hard jounalist first and foremost. Owen is a Millionaire Socialist pretending to care about the working class, but he is just another Millionaire larping his way through life. He has never done a hard days work in his life.

[sidders]

Thanks Sidney for your reply.

I did say you could gain wealth by working hard and sorry if I grouped 'steal' or 'inherit' as one. It was meant as one but technically I suppose you could call it four reasons.

I guess it was about 3 years ago when you accepted my bet ( I seem to remember your "yup I'll have some of that" as your acceptance sentence) when the Dems were all raging about the 'Russian affair', the Mueller report and the possibility of an impeachment which was music to your ears. I'm a little surprised you appear to accept you have lost at this early stage as there's still a long way to go so don't give up yet!

I do however know you will not welch on the bet and I like that - fair enough. However I don't give out my bank details, but should I win, I'll give you the bank details of Beaumond House on London Road Newark who you should know is a fine hospice for all in the area. They know me reasonably well as I've raised a few quid for them in the past. If I lose then I'll transfer the dosh to an account of your choosing.

That was exactly what I meant! I didn't think for a minute you'd give a socialist YOUR bank details. You can't trust ze boogers, ya know.

[sidders]

I find it laughable that you think Owen Jones is a credible source. He is a political activist first and foremost using a journalist position to push his hard left agenda. Andrew Neil is hard jounalist first and foremost. Owen is a Millionaire Socialist pretending to care about the working class, but he is just another Millionaire larping his way through life. He has never done a hard days work in his life.

1. Owen Jones is NOT a millionaire because he realises that if you're a socialist it is criminal to (a) have a million (b) be a success. But anyway, old lad, check it out on Twitter.
2. He makes no secret of his leftist tendencies but that doesn't mean he can't be an investigative journalist. By not openly declaring his conservatism Andrew Neill can lay (falsely) a claim to neutrality.
3 'A hard day's work' - that old chestnut. Tell me, have you done one? Describe it. Of what does 'a hard day's work' have to comprise?

[i961pie]

You don't need to be left or right wing to come to that conclusion, you just need a single brain cell.

If any of our Boris lovers can offer a reasoned argument that the Tories have handled the Covid-19 crisis and education well, I'd love to read it.

I am afraid there is nothing to read, by the way I am not a Boris lover.

[i961pie]

Btw, Serious, you say that wealth comes in 3 ways - steal it, win it or inherit it. But surely that should be 4 ways, because you can earn it too?

I'd prefer to do a bank transfer if you can send me the details. Trump is obviously going to make the 4 years now.
However, I have said on here that whilst I think it really important that Trump is beaten in November, America is so flucked-up that I'm not counting on anything.
Do you have a presence on Facebook? If so, we could swap the details on there. If not, I'll send you one of my email addresses.

Unfortunately America is flucked up and whoever wins the other side will not accept it.

[sidders]

Unfortunately America is flucked up and whoever wins the other side will not accept it.

Actually, I think the Democrats would accept defeat, but if these two are the finest candidates a country of 328 million people can come up with, I despair.

[Elite_Pie]

I'll answer Elite .... you know I usually do. Easy to condemn in hindsight is my answer.

I asked if any of the Boris lovers could offer a reasoned argument that the Tories have handled the Covid-19 crisis and education well. Your one word excuse (sorry, answer) was 'hindsight'.

That seems more of an admission of abject failure to me.

[queenslandpie]

Actually, I think the Democrats would accept defeat, but if these two are the finest candidates a country of 328 million people can come up with, I despair.

Let's be honest Sid. American politics has zero to do with who is the finest candidate. It is everything to do with who is the richest candidate. American politics is the biggest hypocrisy on the face of the planet. At least North Korea doesn't pretend it is democratic.

[EwarWooWar]

I asked if any of the Boris lovers could offer a reasoned argument that the Tories have handled the Covid-19 crisis and education well. Your one word excuse (sorry, answer) was 'hindsight'.

That seems more of an admission of abject failure to me.

Boris has done an excellent job over Covid. He only made two small mistakes. Everything he said, Everything he did.

Honestly, Boris is a narcissist so will always fail. He is more interested in being seen to what is perceived to be the right thing than he is to actually do the right thing. So your standard polititian then. The only good thing he has ever done is break the Brexit deadlock, it had to be done before we could move on as a country (i feel it was the wrong choice). Since then he is looking out for his legacy rather than the country.

As for hindsight, well it works both ways doesn't it. The Democrats in the states blasted Trump when he brought in the Flight bans for china and europe saying they were not needed, they later slated him for not be quick enough on the bans.