Dyche

[Vintage Claret]

We have lost four of our, already threadbare, first team squad. Yet the new season officially started last Saturday and we have no replacements.
If I was the team manager, I would be somewhat more than dissatisfied with the club’s recruitment policy. If you are being asked to do a job with your hands tied behind your back, as I believe Sean Dyche is in that position, you need to consider whether it is worth continuing to do the job.
While the club has stayed financially stable during our Premier League membership our first team recruitment as been very poor and nearly always done at the latter end of transfer windows, being cynical is this to save one month’s wages. The club is rapidly becoming a known for making exceptionally low bids for players, which has led to losing out on some very talented players as other clubs have jumped in to pay nearer the asking price.
We certainly do not need the likes of Flood making press statements regarding the manager leaving, what we need is someone to give the recruitment team a good kick up the backside and told to get on with getting the team manage what he needs to stay in the Premier League.
If Garlick can’t do that then it is time for him to give way to someone who can. If this means a takeover of the club then it may be that is the way forward. Some people will say be careful what you wish for, we could end up like Blackburn, but there are others who have prospered under new owners.

[army88]

We have lost four of our, already threadbare, first team squad. Yet the new season officially started last Saturday and we have no replacements.
If I was the team manager, I would be somewhat more than dissatisfied with the club’s recruitment policy. If you are being asked to do a job with your hands tied behind your back, as I believe Sean Dyche is in that position, you need to consider whether it is worth continuing to do the job.
While the club has stayed financially stable during our Premier League membership our first team recruitment as been very poor and nearly always done at the latter end of transfer windows, being cynical is this to save one month’s wages. The club is rapidly becoming a known for making exceptionally low bids for players, which has led to losing out on some very talented players as other clubs have jumped in to pay nearer the asking price.
We certainly do not need the likes of Flood making press statements regarding the manager leaving, what we need is someone to give the recruitment team a good kick up the backside and told to get on with getting the team manage what he needs to stay in the Premier League.
If Garlick can’t do that then it is time for him to give way to someone who can. If this means a takeover of the club then it may be that is the way forward. Some people will say be careful what you wish for, we could end up like Blackburn, but there are others who have prospered under new owners.

It’s true re the takeover it could go bad , but I’d like to see what Dyche potentially could achieve with access to funds for players, reality is football moves on every year prices go up prorata, we’ve stood still as you say making derisory offers and missing out , im all for prudency and players worth being tested to get a deal as anyone would be , the problem is all we do is waste time that Dyche could have with the player.

After thought on this if we are serious about staying in this league and competing then outside investors - owners seems to Be the only solution for us as a small club in the mighty league.

[The Bedlington Terrier]

If you all take stock for a moment and put yourself in Garlick's shoes, and look at some of the money he has been persuaded to chuck at dodgy deals, no wonder he wants to be certain before wafting the cheque book.

Hart was a grossly overpaid and mind-blowingly daft signing and proved to be as much use to us as a chocolate teapot. We have replaced him with someone who can sit on the same bench, do exactly the same job at a quarter of the cost.

Lennon was OK without breaking any pots, JBG and Brady are both fit so the squad is no worse off in reality.

Fif**** million pounds was spunked and wasted on Gibson and if I was Garlick I would be thinking "not again" on my ticket.

Are Garlick and Dyche really "disconnected" on a personal level? Are two US consortiums really battling to buy Burnley? Rumours are not facts.

We have two non-playing, highly paid senior staff who are clearly not doing their jobs. Our new CEO is noticeable by his absence and what the phuck Rigg actually does is anybody's guess.

Since Dave Baldwin departed we are a bit rudderless IMHO, and again if I was Garlick I would be having a F2F meeting with the trio of Rigg, Dyche and Hart all in attendance and be telling them in no uncertain terms to sort their sh-it out out and start pulling together in one direction - and fast!

[The Bedlington Terrier]

From the Telegraph:

Burnley are in crisis with manager Sean Dyche and chairman Mike Garlick's relationship having severely deteriorated and the club’s drastic need for new signings thrown into turmoil by the prospect of a takeover.

Two rival bidders are competing to take ownership of the Lancashire club but the timing of a potential buyout is wreaking havoc, with attempts to strengthen a threadbare squad before the close of the transfer window in less than three weeks’ time.

Senior sources have told Telegraph Sport that:

The relationship between Dyche and Garlick, once one of the closest manager-chairman dynamics in the top flight, has soured to the point where they now talk far less frequently
Two American consortiums are battling to win control of Burnley but uncertainty over the future of the club has complicated recruitment plans
Burnley remain hopeful of making at least a couple of signings before the close of the window on Oct 5 but first team players are worried about the lack of reinforcements
Six senior players - Jack Cork, Ashley Westwood, Robbie Brady, Matt Lowton, Kevin Long and Phil Bardsley - are out of contract next summer and the club face a battle to keep some of them.
Burnley have yet to make a significant signing ahead of their opening Premier League match at Leicester on Sunday, despite losing Jeff Hendrick, Aaron Lennon and Joe Hart at the end of last season. The club have been linked with the Mainz and Sweden attacking midfielder, Robin Quaison, but there are growing fears about the forthcoming campaign with just 18 senior outfield players on the club’s books.

Sean Dyche with chairman Mike Garlick after signing new contract
Sean Dyche with chairman Mike Garlick after signing new contract CREDIT: Burnley FC
To compound matters, three of those players - captain Ben Mee, midfielder Cork and forward Ashley Barnes - are expected to miss the Leicester game through injury and Burnley face a battle to keep centre-half James Tarkowski, who is wanted by West Ham and Leicester.

For years, Burnley have been one of the country’s best run clubs and, for the past four seasons, they have punched considerably above their weight thanks to Dyche’s impressive management and eye for untapped talent.

They finished 10th last term, equalling their Premier League record haul of 54 points from 2017/18, when they came seventh and qualified for Europe for the first time for 51 years.

But problems have been mounting behind the scenes at Turf Moor for some time.

After years spent unearthing hidden talents, from Tarkowski to goalkeeper Nick Pope, Dyche had hoped for increased investment in the playing squad this summer by targeting more established players.

Yet Garlick has appeared reluctant to alter the model that has worked so well for the club under his watch, a position that seems to have been hardened during talks over a prospective sale. Sources claim that this, in turn, has deepened tensions with the manager.

It has left Burnley in a state of limbo and a position where they are unable to compete for some of the players pursued by rivals such as Sheffield United, Aston Villa and Newcastle United.

For example, winger Ryan Fraser joined Newcastle on a free transfer from Bournemouth last week but his mooted £100,000 a week wage demands meant he was never even an option for Burnley, whose top earners are on around half of that sum.

New signing Ryan Fraser poses for photographs holding a home shirt pitchside at St.James' Park
Burnley have missed out on key targets such as Ryan Fraser CREDIT: Getty Images
Similarly, the highest fee Burnley have ever paid for a player is £15m - the cost of signing Chris Wood and Ben Gibson from Leeds United and Middlesbrough respectively. Villa, by contrast, have just signed forward Ollie Watkins for £28m after a stand-out season with Brentford in the Championship - a deal Burnley could never have countenanced.

Dyche publicly struggled to conceal his frustration at the situation when the Premier League resumed in June, and hit out at the club's failure to extend the contracts of players whose original deals were due to expire at the end of that month.

"We have let contracts run a long way down unfortunately," he said. "It is with the chairman now and I will wait and see what the chairman does with it because I am not in that loop."

Senior players are also known to have raised their growing concerns with the manager.

Dyche's exasperation is understood to have only increased in subsequent months as he faces the prospect of again being asked to work wonders on a meagre budget with a thin, ageing squad. “The main difficulty is finance, it has always been difficult here,” Dyche said this week. “It’s a challenge, we know that, the group needs reinforcements as we’ve lost players at the end of lockdown, good players who have served the club well. We are looking but it is not an easy situation when you are looking at the finances.”

Dyche had warned the club for two years about the perils of running down players’ contracts and is worried about a repeat with the likes of Cork, 31, and Westwood, 30, loyal servants and key assets who warrant improved contracts and who would be expensive to replace.

With two years left on his own contract, which is worth £3.5million annually including bonuses, Dyche seems unlikely to be going anywhere unless a club comes in for his services but it remains to be seen what changes a potential takeover would bring about.


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A typical Telegraph bit of "journalism" built on opinion, speculation and enough bullsh-it to rejuvenate my tired lawn. Let's hear it from Sean's mouth, live on video then I will believe we are in turmoil.

There did not look to be much "turmoil" in evidence, when I watched the video of us tearing Maritimo a new orifice last week.

[army88]

If you all take stock for a moment and put yourself in Garlick's shoes, and look at some of the money he has been persuaded to chuck at dodgy deals, no wonder he wants to be certain before wafting the cheque book.

Hart was a grossly overpaid and mind-blowingly daft signing and proved to be as much use to us as a chocolate teapot. We have replaced him with someone who can sit on the same bench, do exactly the same job at a quarter of the cost.

Lennon was OK without breaking any pots, JBG and Brady are both fit so the squad is no worse off in reality.

Fif**** million pounds was spunked and wasted on Gibson and if I was Garlick I would be thinking "not again" on my ticket.

Are Garlick and Dyche really "disconnected" on a personal level? Are two US consortiums really battling to buy Burnley? Rumours are not facts.

We have two non-playing, highly paid senior staff who are clearly not doing their jobs. Our new CEO is noticeable by his absence and what the phuck Rigg actually does is anybody's guess.

Since Dave Baldwin departed we are a bit rudderless IMHO, and again if I was Garlick I would be having a F2F meeting with the trio of Rigg, Dyche and Hart all in attendance and be telling them in no uncertain terms to sort their sh-it out out and start pulling together in one direction - and fast!

Slightly dangle it out there for a bite BT.

Firstly everything comes back to Garlick flood and the board

They appointed Dyche , in the main he has far exceeded expectations with a club like Burnley on a very tight budget - proven in results.
Hence if the manager says he needs funds - players they need to support him , if they’re having a panic attack at players that didn’t quite do it or cost us money , they’re in the wrong business( as you rightly say there is an odd player or two that flopped but in the scheme of things across 8 Years of Dyche tenure in football terms I don’t call it a bad result.

Rigg was appointed by them , they hired him to find players - let me re phrase that they hired him to find targets who are ultimately competitive acquisitions that fit Dyche s model - if they didn’t hire him for that they failed as we don’t have a massive cheque book for players and we never did have.

So from my perspective whilst I accept they’ve kept the club run professionally we are at the point where its make or break, You mention players that simply make up numbers , Brady ( crocked has been for 2 years now and be honest doesn’t look like even getting back to where he was a reasonable player.
JBG - crocked most of the time in and out of the team can’t seem to sort himself out - I’d take Hendrick back knowing he’ll play more than not .

So I get your post to a point , but as I say the board are really walking on egg shells imo anyway , the clubs success - demise is at risk and members of the board are giving interviews to the press , undermining the manager in my view anyway - I can’t imagine Dyche was overly impressed with those comments.

I’d like to support the board as well but I think on this occasion they’re letting Dyche and the fans down - the saying is put up or shut up, hence why I say they are not supporting the man and if they don’t want to do it lets someone who does have a go.

[The Bedlington Terrier]

In reply army88, Flood's recent comments are redolent of the man and are not at all helpful.

Garlick needs to address the fans and media and disclaim or indeed prove the Dyche disconnect and/or takeover rumours to be true, but PR is not his forte.

I have never really grasped whether he is bad at Public Relations or simply does not give a flying phuck about what we Clarets fans think; sadly, I believe it is the latter.

[Vintage Claret]

Although I personally have never spoken with Flood, he does appear to be a loose canon and as such is a liability we could well do without. If there is definitely a rift between the manager and the board, his comments will only have stoked the fire.
As chairman and major shareholder Garlick must take the lead in sorting this mess out. I can see where the chairman may be concerned with recent transfer dealing such as Gibson, Hart and Wells not to mention loans such as Drinkwater / Bamford but to reduce the playing staff is a grave mistake.
While I have no problem with losing both Hart and Lennon, we should by now have replacements in place. I would have liked Hendrick to stay, but if he and club could not agree a new contract for whatever reason we should have lined up a replacement ready for the new season. It looks like we are going to gamble on using a threadbare squad and with Barnes, Cork and Mee already doubtful for our first premier league game that gamble is looking more than reckless.
At the end of the day the buck stops with Garlick.

[The Bedlington Terrier]

"At the end of the day the buck stops with Garlick".

Indeed it does Vintage, but right now his return on investment in Burnley Football Club must be worth £100 million at least; I would have thought even a moderately successful businessman would be moving heaven and earth to keep it safe.

I don't know if he thinks all is good or not. We will soon see!

[Supersub6]

It is certainly speculative jounalism because none of us, including the press, know exactly what really goes on at the club.
The biggest laugh for me is saying that Ryan Fraser was a target. He literally downed tools at Bournemouth because he did not get a move in the January window and is now on a reported 100 grand per week at Newcastle. Telegraph reporting he was a missed target ---I don't think that anyone at the club would think so!

[sinkov]

It is certainly speculative jounalism because none of us, including the press, know exactly what really goes on at the club.

This is true enough Sub, Dyche runs a tight ship, Garlick says nowt, no outsider knows exactly what's going on on the inside at Turf Moor.

Nevertheless, the recent press statements from Dyche clearly indicate that he's not at all happy with the current situation. We have no idea exactly what's going on, but it's not just idle speculation to say that he is not a happy bunny and something's not right at the club.