THE Ardley In/Out Thread [Multiple threads merged]

[laddo]

To start the season as championship favourites and then struggle for three-quarters of the season, losing to many also-rans and performing like a pub team in a play-off game looks like a shambles to me. If it wasn't such a shambles there would not be as much barracking and calling for Ardley's head then and now from the vox populi would there? He wasn't popular choice to begin with, fans didn't want him and we now know why.

So if last season was a shambles in your opinion. I'd love to hear what word or words would you use to describe the season before last?

You are right nobody was asking for him on NCM.I didn't want him, he was Alan Hardy's choice to get us out of the mess be had got us in.

[Elite_Pie]

It would be interesting to get the the Out Brigades opinion on Mikes words regarding how long it takes to build a team and his words regarding former Manager's & Coaches of Notts in during his time at the club and the Revolving Door System we have used since the turn of the Century, is there any wonder we are where we now find ourselves, the majority of our recent Managers were never given time to find out where their car parking slot was let alone build a team.

My opinion is that it's a sound idea if the manager you stick with and allow to build his own team is a good one. Ardley has got pretty much his own squad now, but what if we only finish mid table? Sticking with a manager isn't a miracle cure unless the manager is the right one.

If you are correct we should go up this year, but if you're not we've wasted more than two and a half seasons by sticking with Ardley.

[laddo]

A lot of us, at the time Ardley was appointed didn't want him as we thought he wasn't the ideal candidate for a 'relegation scrap'. No other reason. We didn't think a recently sacked man who had spent 10 years or so as a player for Wimbledon and 6 ish as manager and was sacked because they were in a relegation scrap themselves, would be the ideal 'fit' for us. Of course, you hope for the best and that somehow the new man will scratch enough points together to get us safe, but truth is, apart from a few fleeting moments, we never really looked like avoiding relegation.

There you go, and handpicked for the relegation scrap by the former chairman. Yet he financially backed him , as he did Nolan to a greater extent so not his fault.

Let's forget that this great backing of managers and clear overspending cost us our league status for the first time in our history, and put us in a dire financial predicament whilst we headed to non league football. Forget that bit.

Truth be told bar a fleeting period under Kewell we never looked like staying up that season.

[ancientpie]

A lot of us, at the time Ardley was appointed didn't want him as we thought he wasn't the ideal candidate for a 'relegation scrap'. No other reason. We didn't think a recently sacked man who had spent 10 years or so as a player for Wimbledon and 6 ish as manager and was sacked because they were in a relegation scrap themselves, would be the ideal 'fit' for us. Of course, you hope for the best and that somehow the new man will scratch enough points together to get us safe, but truth is, apart from a few fleeting moments, we never really looked like avoiding relegation.

A lot of us also thought that he wasn't the perfect man but was probably the best of a poor bunch who applied, unless you payed stupid money it wasn't the sort of job that "good managers" were or are interested in imo. COYP

[i961pie]

There you go, and handpicked for the relegation scrap by the former chairman. Yet he financially backed him , as he did Nolan to a greater extent so not his fault.

Let's forget that this great backing of managers and clear overspending cost us our league status for the first time in our history, and put us in a dire financial predicament whilst we headed to non league football. Forget that bit.

Truth be told bar a fleeting period under Kewell we never looked like staying up that season.

Let's see where we are after 10 games, if we start like Forest and Derby have, and play like we did against Harrogate and York then a change is a must imo. McParland couldn't get the best out of an excellent squad back in 2010 but Cotterill managed it and we won the league.

[Elite_Pie]

Let's forget that this great backing of managers and clear overspending cost us our league status for the first time in our history, and put us in a dire financial predicament.

Hardy's overspending certainly put us in a dire financial predicament, but it didn't cost us our league status.

That was mainly down to the management and players.

[countygump]

A lot of us also thought that he wasn't the perfect man but was probably the best of a poor bunch who applied, unless you payed stupid money it wasn't the sort of job that "good managers" were or are interested in imo. COYP

Do we know who applied Kev? I honestly can't remember whose name was even mentioned, we had so many that season.

[LaxtonLad]

So if last season was a shambles in your opinion. I'd love to hear what word or words would you use to describe the season before last?

If not a catastrophe, that was a shambles too, finished off by Ardley. There you are laddo.

[ancientpie]

Do we know who applied Kev? I honestly can't remember whose name was even mentioned, we had so many that season.

No mate & we probably never will but the quality of our appointments & our reputation for sacking them a few games later suggests that the quality was gradually getting worse & given the mess that he was walking into I doubt very much if Ardley was fighting off competition.

[laddo]

If not a catastrophe, that was a shambles too, finished off by Ardley. There you are laddo.

Thanks LL. But it has to be upgrade or downgrade depending on how you look at it compared to last season. I mean it has to , we got relegated when we started the season as joint or second favourites for the title. Oh and the club was put up for sale near the end in huge amounts of debt

Let's go with a catastrophe