Peter Hitchens

[BCram]

Greens have 6 seats with 6% of the vote. 4m voters 240k votes. With 129 seats that's just 1938 votes per seat.no matter who stands a neutral position on Independence isn't going to win votes, IMO.

[Returnofrros]

Greens have 6 seats with 6% of the vote. 4m voters 240k votes. With 129 seats that's just 1938 votes per seat.no matter who stands a neutral position on Independence isn't going to win votes, IMO.

It's not something to worry about yet, it's for the UK govt to sanction a referendum, hopefully they don't.

Check out the videos, check out what your grandchildren are being taught in schools.....I think most would be uncomfortable and plenty aghast.

No one is asking these questions apart from a tiny Scottish party.

Despite them being labelled right wing they have quite a strong Muslim membership as well which I find quite interesting.

I think you need 5% of the vote to get someone in, that would be incredibly difficult if not impossible.

Remember the greens are really an international movement and the MSM fav party.

[islaydarkblue]

Had a look at their website. Sounds sensible. Better than voting Green as a protest vote. Didn't find a statement on their position on independence.

Patrick Harvie will jump into bed with the political party which is in power at Holyrood.
In my opinion a political party should only be allowed to put candidates up for election as a list MSP if they have put up a candidate in every ‘first past the post’ constituency throughout Scotland.
It is ridiculous that a ‘mickey mouse’ political party like the Greens can hold the balance of power at Holyrood as a result of having a handful of list MSPs.
Yet another case of the tail wagging the dog.

[BCram]

Patrick Harvie will jump into bed with the political party which is in power at Holyrood.
In my opinion a political party should only be allowed to put candidates up for election as a list MSP if they have put up a candidate in every ‘first past the post’ constituency throughout Scotland.
It is ridiculous that a ‘mickey mouse’ political party like the Greens can hold the balance of power at Holyrood as a result of having a handful of list MSPs.
Yet another case of the tail wagging the dog.

Islay, the Green Party is not "mickey mouse". The idea behind the Scottish voting system is to try to reflect the democratic opinion of all voters. At the time the system was devised, the worry was that the Labour party would always be in control with a first past the post system and it was believed that this Additional Member voting system would allow others to have a say and influence the policies that were chosen. The system has been thwarted because the Greens have given the SNP a working majority and the committee system which was designed to reflect all shades of opinion has been distorted to reflect the decisions of those 2 parties.

Our best hope is that the inquiry into the behaviour of the SNP in relation to the Salmond case is actually confronted by all the other parties. By asking for the law courts to intervene and by asking the Green Party to abandon its support the SNP, or risk being associated with one side in a very bitter internal SNP war, the other parties might just get this devolved arrangement to work as planned. Putting the SNP in a minority situation could help us all.

[Returnofrros]

Islay, the Green Party is not "mickey mouse". The idea behind the Scottish voting system is to try to reflect the democratic opinion of all voters. At the time the system was devised, the worry was that the Labour party would always be in control with a first past the post system and it was believed that this Additional Member voting system would allow others to have a say and influence the policies that were chosen. The system has been thwarted because the Greens have given the SNP a working majority and the committee system which was designed to reflect all shades of opinion has been distorted to reflect the decisions of those 2 parties.

Our best hope is that the inquiry into the behaviour of the SNP in relation to the Salmond case is actually confronted by all the other parties. By asking for the law courts to intervene and by asking the Green Party to abandon its support the SNP, or risk being associated with one side in a very bitter internal SNP war, the other parties might just get this devolved arrangement to work as planned. Putting the SNP in a minority situation could help us all.

Or we cud ask Lizzy do close it.

Better all round.

[BCram]

Or we cud ask Lizzy do close it.

Better all round.

Here's me trying to get some practical political discussion and you come in and solve it at a stroke!

[Deeranged]

Here's me trying to get some practical political discussion and you come in and solve it at a stroke!

That wouldn't be a solution it would be a concession.

The solution lies within not outwith.

No, I have no idea what the solution is, I'm not self serving enough to be a politician.

[BCram]

That wouldn't be a solution it would be a concession.

The solution lies within not outwith.

No, I have no idea what the solution is, I'm not self serving enough to be a politician.

I think that politicians have to serve their political party before their electorate. Maybe some more non aligned MSPs would be a help.

[Returnofrros]

I think that politicians have to serve their political party before their electorate. Maybe some more non aligned MSPs would be a help.

School, brainwashed

Uni, brainwashed

Researcher, brainwashed

Then you are Hollyrood ready.

Hollyrood is an echo chamber Bcram all different levels of woke.

[islaydarkblue]

I think that politicians have to serve their political party before their electorate. Maybe some more non aligned MSPs would be a help.

That is certainly the case as far as local authority councillors are concerned. They are told by their ‘political masters’ which way to vote even it it is detrimental to their local constituents.
In my opinion all local authority councillors should be independents which would mean that they would have to think for themselves when voting instead of doing as they are told.