Quote Originally Posted by Jampie View Post
Where did I say he wasn't partly responsible for the relegation? What a ridiculous strawman argument.

Sacking managers can be a good thing yes, if you replace them with a better manager. However, even if you do that, the incoming manager's performance will suffer from the transition. How many managerial stints of two or more seasons have their best results in the first season? Replacing the manager too frequently leads to poor (or even worse) results. Case in point... Notts County.

His win record to date puts him ahead of most recent Notts managers in terms of win records. Are you suggesting he has a League two budget at the moment? If so, what is it? If we're talking budgets I'm happy to do that... with numbers.

Klopp's win record with Liverpool is 60%... not sure why you're bringing him up. Who are the recent Notts co managers you think are better than Ardley? I'm interested.
Good misdirection there. You stared sacking managers is never a good thing only a few posts ago?!?! Now it is. Interesting.

Where did I mention budget?!? Where did you get that from?!? Trying to divert the point again since I never mentioned it.

We were talking win ratios and you claimed he was one of notts better managers because of his win ratio.

Is it just about win ratio then? Not what level they manage at which determines their ability?!

A chap I know manages a school team and has a win ration higher than Ardley. Is he a better manager?

Warnock and sirrel won’t have win ratios as good as Ardley last season, does that make him a better manager?

Klopp has a better win ratio, of it was worse than Ardley’s would Ardley be a better manager?

I’m not interested in following your latest diversion of which recent managers are better.

Let’s go with some of your statements :

“If you exclude the horrific situation he walked into as third (and terminal) manager in our relegation year, you really only have last season to judge him by.”
Isn’t that ignoring his part?

“ His overall win rate is 40% with the club as a whole, making him one of the better managers in recent years”
His win ratio is at a lower level than any of the other managers. A level where we are a very big fish in a small pond. Why is that so hard to understand?

“ Sacking a manager is a problem. It's always a problem.” So not a good thing?