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  1. #41
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    RA "Hope you’re not serious about Billy Cranky...think I’d switch my allegiance to Matlock Town if he came back!"

    We'd soon end up playing Matlock if that appointment were made

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    Some of the dawdling at the back is down to having no outlet at that time. Better than earlier in the season when the defence often had no outlet for a pass for most of the match.

    Crosses are at best inaccurate which is never going to help us out in the attacking third. That brings players inside all the time which is their natural instinct when you play them on the "wrong" side as a "false" winger. Where did Barnsley have their 2 banks of defenders? Correct. In the middle portion of the pitch. We played into their hands in continually trying to go through the middle and finding no room at the Inn.

    A mixture of wrong decision making and an overcrowded middle of the pitch to which we were constantly attracted aided and abetted by a lack of a good final ball meant we were going to struggle.

    Lawro had 3 opportunities. 2 within 3 seconds of each other and then a third where he did well to get a shot away. Knight had one 8 yards out he couldn't hit properly.

    Selection was an issue as well. We went for shoehorning Rooney in again. Individually he had reasonable game with some very good passes but, unfortunately, just as many bad ones. He didn't really add to the whole though and, IMO, the dropping of Jozwiak to accommodate Rooney detracted from the whole. If there is the much rumoured "Wayne has to play when fit" clause is actually in his contrcat then there either has to be a renegotiation or the contract needs tearing up as Rooney is, currently, not worth a starting place and he is NOT bigger or more important than the club.

    I can forgive Marshall his blunder. He's been our saving grace so often this season I can't pillory him for it.

    The ref started off well but ended up being the same, "apparent", anti-Ram we have seen for much of the season.

    On the good side, and there is one, we saw quite a lot of slick, one touch interpassing that was a joy to behold. Such a shame with the caveat that we don't do it in the final third.

    In their few minutes together on the park, we have seen Waggy and Kazim appear to have an instant understanding. I'd like to see us have a go with the 2 of them up top in a 1-3-2-3-2 formation.

    Marshall

    Bielik Davies Clarke

    Knight Shinnie

    Sibley Lawro Jozwiak

    Waghorn Kazim

    The only way is up (or out?) from here. 2 weeks to sort things out and then have them complicated by a new owner.......

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    That's an interesting line up that could make for attractive football. I might switch Wisdom in for Davies and move Bielek central

    But no fullbacks? We'd maybe lose 5-3 instead of 1-0 🤔😢

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    Quote Originally Posted by swaledale View Post
    One can only accept reality, we deserved nothing from the game, irrespective of who we were playing. Hope you manage to keep out of the danger zone. Only consoltaion is that the Dirty Weeds got hammered!
    Yes, let's hope they get relegated on the last day of the season thanks to a last minute goal controversially disallowed by VAR!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Geoff Parkstone View Post
    That's an interesting line up that could make for attractive football. I might switch Wisdom in for Davies and move Bielek central

    But no fullbacks? We'd maybe lose 5-3 instead of 1-0 🤔😢
    I hate pulling the full backs but Buchannan and Byrne do my head in every throw in, wether half way in the opposition half gets slung back to the defence
    What's wrong with working the line
    They carry on doing it even when we are losing
    Every pass is slow
    I watched Chelsea last night they play the same way we play but every pass is 50% quicker ,we have no urgency everthing we do is predictable
    I know they have better players
    I just don't think the brain of our players works very quick
    You can be old and slow but have a quick brain and still look the best player on the pitch
    We have no movement to find space
    I was screaming at the match yesterday , play quicker . I think thats the key
    We don't look fit
    Lawrence looks really unfit to me, he's seems to be gasping for breath after a run and it takes him 10 mins to get a second wind

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    Quote Originally Posted by Geoff Parkstone View Post
    RA "Hope you’re not serious about Billy Cranky...think I’d switch my allegiance to Matlock Town if he came back!"

    We'd soon end up playing Matlock if that appointment were made
    Much as I dislike him as a person can anyone recall what he did for and no one else in nearly three decades has?

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    Bought Bob Malcolm?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andy_Faber View Post
    Much as I dislike him as a person can anyone recall what he did for and no one else in nearly three decades has?
    Yep...he fluked us up playing very poor football before announcing that he wished we were Preston and leaving us up Wotsit Creek without a paddle.
    Mind you, he did contribute towards a very fine afternoon in late March 2014.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MadAmster View Post
    Some of the dawdling at the back is down to having no outlet at that time. Better than earlier in the season when the defence often had no outlet for a pass for most of the match.

    Crosses are at best inaccurate which is never going to help us out in the attacking third. That brings players inside all the time which is their natural instinct when you play them on the "wrong" side as a "false" winger. Where did Barnsley have their 2 banks of defenders? Correct. In the middle portion of the pitch. We played into their hands in continually trying to go through the middle and finding no room at the Inn.

    A mixture of wrong decision making and an overcrowded middle of the pitch to which we were constantly attracted aided and abetted by a lack of a good final ball meant we were going to struggle.

    Lawro had 3 opportunities. 2 within 3 seconds of each other and then a third where he did well to get a shot away. Knight had one 8 yards out he couldn't hit properly.

    Selection was an issue as well. We went for shoehorning Rooney in again. Individually he had reasonable game with some very good passes but, unfortunately, just as many bad ones. He didn't really add to the whole though and, IMO, the dropping of Jozwiak to accommodate Rooney detracted from the whole. If there is the much rumoured "Wayne has to play when fit" clause is actually in his contrcat then there either has to be a renegotiation or the contract needs tearing up as Rooney is, currently, not worth a starting place and he is NOT bigger or more important than the club.

    I can forgive Marshall his blunder. He's been our saving grace so often this season I can't pillory him for it.

    The ref started off well but ended up being the same, "apparent", anti-Ram we have seen for much of the season.

    On the good side, and there is one, we saw quite a lot of slick, one touch interpassing that was a joy to behold. Such a shame with the caveat that we don't do it in the final third.

    In their few minutes together on the park, we have seen Waggy and Kazim appear to have an instant understanding. I'd like to see us have a go with the 2 of them up top in a 1-3-2-3-2 formation.

    Marshall

    Bielik Davies Clarke

    Knight Shinnie

    Sibley Lawro Jozwiak

    Waghorn Kazim

    The only way is up (or out?) from here. 2 weeks to sort things out and then have them complicated by a new owner.......
    No I think its because Cocu has been using this idea of including the goal keeper in the formation and as none of the players are familiar with it, they are confused and keep looking for the additional player we are supposed to have in the outfield. Why Marshall didn't even realise it was him and passed the ball to this additional player only to find out he wasn't there but a Barnsley man was.

    So there you have it folks, the blame is down to using a system to describe formations which no senior professional coach does, all we ahve to do is get Cocu to use 4-4-2 or 4-2-3-1 as every other manager/coach in English football does and it will be sorted!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andy_Faber View Post
    Much as I dislike him as a person can anyone recall what he did for and no one else in nearly three decades has?
    Now now Andy you can't define success by what a manager's team achieves on the field, you have to assess, the playing style of the team, the quality of players bought, the quality of the opposition in the league that season and whether he built a team for the future. Fail those assessments and achieving promotion is not success!

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