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Thread: OT/ Whars yer troosers US Election

  1. #231
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    Quote Originally Posted by arab777 View Post
    You are being disingenuous. From the same article

    "Last year, Iran began deliberately and publicly reneging on commitments it had made under an international nuclear accord signed with China, France, Germany, Russia, the UK and the US. The move was made in retaliation after US President Donald Trump abandoned the nuclear accord and reinstated crippling economic sanctions"

    Iran was complying with the deal. They changed this position as a result of the US breaking the treaty. No wonder. A carefully agreed plan was holding up well until Trump torpedoed it and carried out the wishes of his Saudi allies who he then signed a whopping arms deal that has been used to kill many civilians in Yemen.

    You still haven't pointed out what was inaccurate in the post about Trump's bogus claims about widespread election fraud.
    Nothing disingenuous at all, Iran is a cancer on the world stage who’s sole intention is to develop nuclear weaponry, and given they have consistently maintained their stance to wipe Israel off the face of the earth, only a fool would believe their intentions are anything else, are you a fool?

    As for arms deals with the Saudi’s they’ve been going on for years spearheaded by the UK, the most embarrassing was at the hands of the war criminal Tony Blair, who turned his back on investigating these deals as it was ‘not in the public interest’ only for him to sign a contract to represent the same firms and pocketing a £5m a year payment for his services, for Labour read Democrats!

    You say I have not pointed out The Donald’s ‘bogus’ claims of electoral fraud? Fuchsake, the investigation has just started with a hand recount of all votes in Georgia I think it is? Let’s wait and see the outcome eh, meanwhile, be like Monica.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ahlltanyirhide View Post
    Nothing disingenuous at all, Iran is a cancer on the world stage who’s sole intention is to develop nuclear weaponry, and given they have consistently maintained their stance to wipe Israel off the face of the earth, only a fool would believe their intentions are anything else, are you a fool?

    As for arms deals with the Saudi’s they’ve been going on for years spearheaded by the UK, the most embarrassing was at the hands of the war criminal Tony Blair, who turned his back on investigating these deals as it was ‘not in the public interest’ only for him to sign a contract to represent the same firms and pocketing a £5m a year payment for his services, for Labour read Democrats!

    You say I have not pointed out The Donald’s ‘bogus’ claims of electoral fraud? Fuchsake, the investigation has just started with a hand recount of all votes in Georgia I think it is? Let’s wait and see the outcome eh, meanwhile, be like Monica.
    What you or I think about Iran is neither here nor there the point was Iran was abiding by the internationally agreed deal until Trump came along and guess what things slid.

    If you believe there is widespread election fraud as described by Trump your living in the same fantasy world. Its telling that despite all the accusations and bluster when it actually comes to court cases nothing of any substance is produced. I feels sorry for the lawyers having to admit they have nothing to judges https://twitter.com/marceelias/statu...45253360635904
    They even wanted to hide the evidence they were presenting to court. Judge having none of it arguing the public “has a right to know how flimsy Plaintiffs’ evidence actually is.” https://eu.azcentral.com/story/news/...dy/6242176002/


    listen I have no problem people having different political views left, right, centre whatever. The big problem I have with Trump is the lies, the misinformation, the narcissism. He is con man, a swindler pure and simple. His Presidency started with a lie about inauguration crowds and has continued to lie every day of his Presidency right through to making up this election fraud narrative to try and cling to power. Democracy, facts and science have been the main causalities of the Trump presidency.

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    Quote Originally Posted by arab777 View Post
    Democracy, facts and science have been the main causalities of the Trump presidency.
    Yep, and sadly also 240,000 American citizens. And rising.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JamesMcClean View Post
    Yep, and sadly also 240,000 American citizens. And rising.
    Wow heard the haters of Trump blaming him for a lot of things but blaming him for covid pretty harshNot that he has led his country well against it actually from what I have seen he's been pretty bad but to say there would have been no deaths in America if he was not in charge is some accusation which is what you are saying blaming him for all these deaths.Guessing you are not blaming leaders of other countries for all the deaths in there countrys? Would say he never did a good job myself but would not think there would have been zero deaths without him.To be fair in deaths per million population he has done better than Britian and others.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AraBrian View Post
    Wow heard the haters of Trump blaming him for a lot of things but blaming him for covid pretty harshNot that he has led his country well against it actually from what I have seen he's been pretty bad but to say there would have been no deaths in America if he was not in charge is some accusation which is what you are saying blaming him for all these deaths.Guessing you are not blaming leaders of other countries for all the deaths in there countrys? Would say he never did a good job myself but would not think there would have been zero deaths without him.To be fair in deaths per million population he has done better than Britian and others.
    Wow.

    Just wow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JamesMcClean View Post
    Wow.

    Just wow.
    If youy were not blaming him personally for the deaths of 240,000 americans who have died of covid I appoligise but thats the way I read you'r post.If you were then you'r right Wow!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by AraBrian View Post
    If youy were not blaming him personally for the deaths of 240,000 americans who have died of covid I appoligise but thats the way I read you'r post.If you were then you'r right Wow!!
    There were never going to be zero deaths to Covid in the USA. But to hit 240,000 and still increasing rapidly? That is down to Trump. 100%.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JamesMcClean View Post
    There were never going to be zero deaths to Covid in the USA. But to hit 240,000 and still increasing rapidly? That is down to Trump. 100%.
    As I said don't think he handled it well with daft sh.. about drinking disinfectant his dislike of masks and other trump nonsense but even though America has 240,000 deaths per population is better than some other countrys including britian.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AraBrian View Post
    As I said don't think he handled it well with daft sh.. about drinking disinfectant his dislike of masks and other trump nonsense but even though America has 240,000 deaths per population is better than some other countrys including britian.
    Being better than Britain is not something to boast about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JamesMcClean View Post
    Being better than Britain is not something to boast about.
    No but why accuse him of killing 240,000 people in his country when this country is doing worse and so are others some a lot worse is not really fair as I said don't think he has done well and you are right comparing him to the mess in this country is not great actually pisses me of every time wee nic compares us to england so can see where you are coming from there.

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