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[upthemaggies]

It depends what you are comparing. If the question is 'who has the best team?', clearly Mansfield do. That's been the case for a few seasons now, and it will probably be the case for a few more. But that alone doesn't make them a bigger or more significant club. A quick glance at league history and attendances will show that they aren't.

There are a lot of variables including time frame.

I'll try and break it down as fairly but simply as I can

1.Bigger (attendance/resources)
Historically bigger: Notts
Currently bigger: Notts
On course to be bigger: Still Notts but Stags closing the gap

2.Better (players/results/league position)
Historically better: Notts
Currently better: Stags
On course to be better: Stags but can change week to week with results

3.Significant (media and neutral fan perception)
Historically significant: Notts
Currently significant: Stags *Clough effect
On course to be significant: Stags *as above but could change with results

So based on the above on Sunday 15th November 2020, who is Nottinghamshire's no.2 club?
Maybe everyone could agree to say that it's no longer as obvious as it once was.

[magpie_mania]

There are a lot of variables including time frame.

I'll try and break it down as fairly but simply as I can

1.Bigger (attendance/resources)
Historically bigger: Notts
Currently bigger: Notts
On course to be bigger: Still Notts but Stags closing the gap

2.Better (players/results/league position)
Historically better: Notts
Currently better: Stags
On course to be better: Stags but can change week to week with results

3.Significant (media and neutral fan perception)
Historically significant: Notts
Currently significant: Stags *Clough effect
On course to be significant: Stags *as above but could change with results

So based on the above on Sunday 15th November 2020, who is Nottinghamshire's no.2 club?
Maybe everyone could agree to say that it's no longer as obvious as it once was.

Your 'on course to be' are opinions and guesses. But they back up your point of trying to prove that Mansfield are 'bigger'.

There's another criteria: History. Who wins that one?

[upthemaggies]

Your 'on course to be' are opinions and guesses. But they back up your point of trying to prove that Mansfield are 'bigger'.

There's another criteria: History. Who wins that one?

I did include a proviso for all "On course" entries, I'm not sure how much more clear and simple I could have made it that results dictate the direction of the current in that respect. We've just lost two on the trot, Stags have just won two on the trot. They're on course to be taken more seriously than Notts but that could soon change and then again it may not.

History is taken into account in biggest/best/significant with Notts ticking the box on all three. Nobody would argue that Notts aren't historically no.2, but does history make Bury bigger, better or more significant than any other league club today? They won two FA Cups and had 22 top flight seasons, 2nd tier as recently as 1999. OK they no longer exist, but Notts being non-league has been enough to rob us of our greatest claim to fame.