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    The world may well not be ‘black and white’ and instead be ‘full of grey’, GP but somethings just transcend that ‘greyness’...pea-dophilia, driving at excessive speed through built up areas, drinking and driving, rape, domestic abuse, child abuse. We’d all, I presume agree that such actions are universally wrong (although you’d probably throw in a red herring about emergency service drivers for #2)...and to that I’d add parading through US cities carrying weapons that would have looked more at home on the battlefield.



    These things that transcend 'greyness' RA. A 16 year old lad sleeping with his 15 years 11 months 25 day old girlfriend is committing an offence for which he could be put on the *** offenders register alongside the dirty old men who prey on young girls. Likewise, the unsuspecting motorist driving at 25 mph down a road which has been 30 mph limit for the last 50 years, compared with a boy racer hurtling down the street in his souped up Civic. Or someone who had a few drinks last night, still being a few milligrams over the limit the following morning, compared with his mate the night before, who could barely stand before driving home from the pub. Two work colleagues get totally drunk on a business trip and end up sleeping with each other. Both are horrified that they've cheated on their partner, but the man is guilty of rape, just like a serial rapist who picks on women walking home alone.

    There is greyness almost every where you look, RA

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ram59 View Post
    The world may well not be ‘black and white’ and instead be ‘full of grey’, GP but somethings just transcend that ‘greyness’...pea-dophilia, driving at excessive speed through built up areas, drinking and driving, rape, domestic abuse, child abuse. We’d all, I presume agree that such actions are universally wrong (although you’d probably throw in a red herring about emergency service drivers for #2)...and to that I’d add parading through US cities carrying weapons that would have looked more at home on the battlefield.



    These things that transcend 'greyness' RA. A 16 year old lad sleeping with his 15 years 11 months 25 day old girlfriend is committing an offence for which he could be put on the *** offenders register alongside the dirty old men who prey on young girls. Likewise, the unsuspecting motorist driving at 25 mph down a road which has been 30 mph limit for the last 50 years, compared with a boy racer hurtling down the street in his souped up Civic. Or someone who had a few drinks last night, still being a few milligrams over the limit the following morning, compared with his mate the night before, who could barely stand before driving home from the pub. Two work colleagues get totally drunk on a business trip and end up sleeping with each other. Both are horrified that they've cheated on their partner, but the man is guilty of rape, just like a serial rapist who picks on women walking home alone.

    There is greyness almost every where you look, RA
    I understand your points Ram, except that 1) That is neither pea-dophelia or child abuse. 2) I was talking about extreme and irresponsible high speed driving. 3) My reference was to blatant drinking and driving. 4) The scenario you describe doesn’t involve ‘rape’.

    Acknowledge your point about ‘greyness’ however I suspect you know full well you are playing ‘devil’s advocate’ and taking us up a blind alley.
    My point remains that we have certain taboos within society and that the public ownership of weapons more suited to use in wartime should be amongst them. It is in the UK...think it should be in the USA too.

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