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    Quote Originally Posted by rico94 View Post
    What are you going on about?
    That’ll be employment rights. Look it up.

    You really don’t think football players under contract are told to move on these days when they don’t want to?
    Perhaps, but it won’t be without their club, with which they have a contract, honouring that contract eg by paying out their contract or an agreed severance sum suitable to both player and club. Bryson, Gleeson etc are examples.

    Football players aren’t like you and I at all, if I’m doing at sh1t job on a regular basis at my work I get fired, they don’t.
    I’m afraid they are in principle. If players don’t perform well, they can be demoted out of (say) the first team squad, in which case the bonus structure for the first team squad likely won’t be available to them. Both parties may then agree to the player going on the transfer list, and may agree to a transfer to another club, terminating the existing contract. The club may offer that player an inducement to leave the club on a free transfer (Bryson).

    I think the difference is that footballers sign closed contracts, ie for a specific period eg three years. In my 41 years of employment, I never had a fixed-term contract, and my experience is that that would have been unusual. I was obliged to heed contractual notice periods, however, and was never fortunate enough to have an employer say to me “Just **** off then, and we’ll pay you for your notice period”. I was ever the model employee, of course.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 57vintage View Post
    That’ll be employment rights. Look it up.



    Perhaps, but it won’t be without their club, with which they have a contract, honouringnthat contract eg by paying out their contract or an agreed severance sum suitable to both player and club. Bryson, Gleeson etc are examples.



    I’m afraid they are in principle. If players don’t perform well, they can be demoted out of (say) the first team squad, in which case the bonus structure for the first team squad likely won’t be available to them. Both parties may then agree to the player going on the transfer list, and may agree to a transfer to another club, terminating the existing contract. The club may offer that player an inducement to leave the club on a free transfer (Bryson).

    I think the difference is that footballers sign closed contracts, ie for a specific period eg three years. In my 41 years of employment, I never had a fixed-term contract, and my experience is that that would have been unusual. I was obliged to heed contractual notice periods, however, and was never fortunate enough to have an employer say to me “Just **** off then, and we’ll pay you for your notice period”. I was ever the model employee, of course.
    You were wittering on about slavery a minute ago now you are talking about players getting demoted if they don’t perform which stops them getting bonuses.

    If I am doing a sh1t job at my work on a regular basis I won’t be getting demoted and my manager certainly won’t get fired for it.

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    Sorry. This discussion is now closed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 57vintage View Post
    Sorry. This discussion is now closed.
    Surely in the 21st century you don’t get to decide that.

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