The Corona Virus

[oldcolner]

BT I’m just giving facts, you’re giving uninformed opinion. There’s a big difference.

[Supersub6]

Methinks that OC is well versed in the medical world and has good research options and he keeps us informed, however, as with everytihng, it is a matter of personal choice as to how we react to the information.
BT ---don't shoot the messenger, he is just passing on information, the choice really is yours.

[The Bedlington Terrier]

I know Supersub6, I'll leave it alone now.

[sinkov]

Methinks that OC is well versed in the medical world and has good research options and he keeps us informed, however, as with everytihng, it is a matter of personal choice as to how we react to the information.
BT ---don't shoot the messenger, he is just passing on information, the choice really is yours.

I mentioned it several days ago that you had to hang around for 15 minutes in case of allergic reaction, which was one reason I was in no hurry to have the jab, I want to see just how many have an allergic reaction before they stick that needle into me.

What is disconcerting in OC's passing on of information in post 1246, are the following two statements.

"People with a history of significant allergic reactions should not have the Pfizer/BioNTech Covid jab, regulators say."

"Both NHS workers have a history of serious allergies and carry adrenalin pens around with them."

In the light of the above it's clear those two NHS workers should not have had the jab, but they did. Carelessness or negligence ? If they can get it so wrong with their own staff, I think it might be prudent to wait until there's some evidence that they actually know what they're doing, and there is more evidence of the risk involved.

[The Bedlington Terrier]

I am rather fond of my "uninformed opinion", thank you very much.

[oldcolner]

I mentioned it several days ago that you had to hang around for 15 minutes in case of allergic reaction, which was one reason I was in no hurry to have the jab, I want to see just how many have an allergic reaction before they stick that needle into me.

What is disconcerting in OC's passing on of information in post 1246, are the following two statements.

"People with a history of significant allergic reactions should not have the Pfizer/BioNTech Covid jab, regulators say."

"Both NHS workers have a history of serious allergies and carry adrenalin pens around with them."

In the light of the above it's clear those two NHS workers should not have had the jab, but they did. Carelessness or negligence ? If they can get it so wrong with their own staff, I think it might be prudent to wait until there's some evidence that they actually know what they're doing, and there is more evidence of the risk involved.

You are probably right Sinkov but the MHRA information doesn’t give any advice on contraindications or cautions apart from the 15 min wait, it clearly will say that in future. I think the trial would have excluded those with known allergic reactions, so no such reactions had occurred in the trial. It’s only taken 2 such reactions to change the advice on the product.

This happens occasionally with new medicines as some side effects may only occur in 1 in 100000 people and no trial is that big. There may be more side effects but these are all being monitored and reported, so other advice changes may occur.

In the old days it took years sometimes to identify side effects, thalidomide took from 1957 to 1961 for the disastrous effects on the foetus to be tracked back to it. They are much better at it now.

[oldcolner]

I am rather fond of my "uninformed opinion", thank you very much.

We know BT and sort of love you for it.

[oldcolner]

I know Supersub6, I'll leave it alone now.

Roll up folks Place your bets now.

[Norder]

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this is no Joke...big pharma, rushes out, at unprecidented off the scale speed - a genetic mRna £Vaccine£...a type that has never before been licensed for use in Human beings...It was only a few weeks ago that they were looking at results from their questionable trials, for a vaccine that up until now - took many many years of research and Testing to finalise, with only a tiny hope of a positive result - and the fact that this (mRNA-DNA copy) is a gentic delivery system that will hijack cells and build a viral attack so as to force the bodys natural defece system into overdrive, is to me...a manipulation too far, and being that as we know, this "Virus" ( as others) is only a danger to a small percentage of people - looking to inject everyone - is very scary, and should be to all. Thats my view....Viruses come and go, they have done for millions of years, the body knows that, we're connected to it, are full of viruses, hundreds of millions of them - and if our immune system is working well, then Why would we seek to alter it...Force it into action, stressing it ? damaging it ? - replacing it with something foreign, that who knows, could destroy the natural sending us (at best) to complete reliance on fake pharmecuticals....and then, there's those ill side effects. Again...am just airing my own feelings, as whats best for others is down to them alone to decide...for them to do their own research, from all angles - ask the questions, what is it / in it etc..All I know, is that I'd Never Ever advocate a potential pandoras box of uncertainty to any, especially when...as we've been told, and can see...to the sure vast majority - the alternative, is of little to no great risk.

[sinkov]

We know BT and sort of love you for it.

You speak for yourself OC.