Quote Originally Posted by Norder View Post
look colner - I can hear and see what you say on the BBC or governemt websites etc.....and your free to repeat it, but I think you should perhaps try looking a little deeper - where you'll find that your above comment is a truly uninformed one, the vaccines made by Pfizer/BioNTech and Moderna, make copies of the viral spile protein, viral fakes that cause a reaction, how can they do that without hijacking or taking over the immune system - they can't , it's their whole point - they're cloaked until they get in side the cell, then they grow the spiike protein - unlike the non-replicating viral vectors from Oxford/AstraZeneca - but were talking the virally derived, self-amplifying RNA Pfizer vac...Aren't we - and finally...this is Absolutely not a conventional vaccine - as before, Pharma Is Not producing proteins to do the work, basic knowledge at this point - no ?


Colner . I only responded because of your derogatory and misinformed response...all the above and earlier comment, is easily verifiable. I wouldn't post otherwise.


and...I really dont want to communicate any further response with you, if you could try and steer away, much appreciated

Thank You.
Norder
Maybe I was a bit OTT in my rebuttal but to suggest I’m a mouthpiece for the BBC and government is rather insulting. I worked with vaccines for 30 years and had qualifications needed to let me do that.

Maybe you should read the CDC site.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019...they-work.html

It says there are three types of vaccine and this is how they work

mRNA vaccines contain material from the virus that causes COVID-19 that gives our cells instructions for how to make a harmless protein that is unique to the virus. After our cells make copies of the protein, they destroy the genetic material from the vaccine. Our bodies recognize that the protein should not be there and build T-lymphocytes and B-lymphocytes that will remember how to fight the virus that causes COVID-19 if we are infected in the future.

Protein subunit vaccines include harmless pieces (proteins) of the virus that cause COVID-19 instead of the entire germ. Once vaccinated, our immune system recognizes that the proteins don’t belong in the body and begins making T-lymphocytes and antibodies. If we are ever infected in the future, memory cells will recognize and fight the virus.

Vector vaccines contain a weakened version of a live virus—a different virus than the one that causes COVID-19—that has genetic material from the virus that causes COVID-19 inserted in it (this is called a viral vector). Once the viral vector is inside our cells, the genetic material gives cells instructions to make a protein that is unique to the virus that causes COVID-19. Using these instructions, our cells make copies of the protein. This prompts our bodies to build T-lymphocytes and B-lymphocytes that will remember how to fight that virus if we are infected in the future.

By all means don’t reply to me in future, but I won’t refrain from responding to your posts when I understand them, if they are giving views I don’t agree or are wrong