The Corona Virus

[sinkov]

Never mind the bodies BT, there are no more than any other autumn/winter, here's some more on the PCR testing scandal,

"For the past few weeks I have received a stream of unsettling letters and emails from members of the public. They are all complete strangers, people I’ve never met. They decided to get in touch out of what I can only describe as desperation.

They are at their wits’ end because they are testing positive for COVID-19 despite having recovered from their symptoms. Some never had symptoms in the first place but are still being told they have the virus long after any possible infection. They are anxious and confused. Their lives are on hold.

One family tells me how their mother caught COVID-19 in hospital in October but continues to test positive. “This is starting to cause problems with her receiving treatment for cancer,” they write, “so we’re trying to prove she’s not still infectious.” Another man complains of losing his sense of smell two months ago, his only symptom. Yet his test results continue to be positive. When will he eventually be negative, he wants to know.

After detailing some of the failings in the way the test is used, and the critical fact that the this simple yes/no test cannot tell us if the individual is still sick, or capable of infecting others, he writes:

Last Friday, however, an academic journal reported that almost a quarter (24%) of infected staff and patients at the John Radcliffe Hospital in Oxford were still testing positive for COVID-19 a full six weeks after the start of an illness that normally runs its course within 14 days.

If that were in any way representative, I’d have to conclude that the official coronavirus figures have been grossly overstated, with all the damage that entails.

As Newcastle University’s Professor Allyson Pollock said recently, the PCR tests were never designed to be used across entire populations. The manufacturer’s instructions, she says, make it clear that they are no more than a tool to help with diagnosis and they are “not to be used on healthy people with no symptoms”.

I believe that Britain’s new-found testing mania is a retreat from properly conducted clinical medicine as well as from common sense. And that we are witnessing a triumph of herd thinking, an expensive one at that. Most PCR kits still cost more than £100 to obtain privately, for example, and the Government says it is now delivering 500,000 a day. But even these figures are dwarfed by the £100 billion the Prime Minister is prepared to spend on a “moonshot” dream of supplying the population with tests more or less on demand.

All precision has been sacrificed and instead we are blundering through, imprisoning people in their homes, further crippling the economy long after the infection has vanished. This is why we must treat the Government’s daily tally of cases, often in five figures, with a huge dose of salt. And why we must restrict the reporting of positive coronavirus diagnoses to those who are infectious to others. These are the people who matter in a pandemic."

[The Bedlington Terrier]

Thanks for that sinkov. I fail to understand the logic of healthy people who volunteer and then queue to get tested for a virus they show no symptoms of having. Talk about setting yourself up for a fall?

[sinkov]

Thanks for that sinkov. I fail to understand the logic of healthy people who volunteer and then queue to get tested for a virus they show no symptoms of having. Talk about setting yourself up for a fall?

There's more BT,

"I am an NHS registered nurse and my hospital trust is now strongly encouraging twice weekly lateral flow tests for all its frontline staff (which I have politely declined). Interesting though how they use lateral flow tests for health carers (which has a low false positive rate) but continue to use PCR for the public (which has a high false positive rate). Its a win win for the government – less health workers requiring to isolate, whilst still maintaining a case-demic that justifies Tier 3 restrictions. Clever."

Clever indeed.

[1959_60]

Clever?

What possible advantage to the Government is achieved by putting regions in tier 3 restrictions?

Less tax take, more financial support, less output...

[The Bedlington Terrier]

Clever?

What possible advantage to the Government is achieved by putting regions in tier 3 restrictions?

Less tax take, more financial support, less output...

Less effort to contain the proletariat 59er?

[1959_60]

Less effort to contain the proletariat 59er?

Oh, right BT.....

Perhaps you may subscribe to the view that the vaccine contains stuff to help "them" control the thoughts of the world population?
The vaccine, after all, will be rolled out in every country.

The cunning buggers....

[oldcolner]

FFS! Will someone please show me the bodies?

Necrophiliac BT?

[sinkov]

Clever?

What possible advantage to the Government is achieved by putting regions in tier 3 restrictions?

The same reason we got put into Lockdown last month I would imagine 59. The government and the mad scientists have dug themselves into their Lockdown hole and now can't/daren't stop digging. The virus peaked last April before any government measures had time to take effect, although they continue to lie about that.

Infections and deaths were starting to fall in October, so we got the 4000 deaths a day lie, (which you fell for hook, line and sinker mon ami), leaked to the press and Boris announces another Lockdown. And why not, it gives them a shot at claiming that Lockdown was a success again, they really would have been left with egg on their faces with the virus having peaked and them having done nothing. They weren't going to allow that to happen.

"If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes *****ly important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State." Joseph Goebbels

I wonder if the above is why the government lie about those testing positive, calling them 'cases', when they know full well they are not. What I do not understand is why ordinary members of the public go along with the lie, are even complicit in it by supporting them in their lie. I can't answer that 59, perhaps you can ?

[1959_60]

Nah, doesn't wash at all Mon Ami.

Boris, Rishi etc would like nothing more than to set us free. This is costing them financially, emotionally and, most importantly, politically.

Whichever figures you read, there is no doubt that we are in the middle of a global pandemic which, left unchecked (especially at this time of year), would result in a far greater death toll.

America for instance, are currently seeing people dying from the virus at a rate similar to the 911 attack...every day.

You seem to be saying that there's nowt to worry about, and are questioning the figures. Are you questioning the figures worldwide, or just in the UK?

What would YOU do if you were in charge? It seems to me that you would allow everything to open up as usual (with distancing), ban the use of masks by the population and not roll out the vaccine until it had been tested for several years. Is this a fair assessment?

[Balanbam00]

What possible advantage to the Government is achieved by putting regions in tier 3 restrictions? ''Whats it all about Alfie?''

All this is not clear to me but as I have said Capitalism will die ,it will crash. When that happens, millions take to the streets.A situation of Anarchy. Very dangerous with violent riots, negative activity etc. Thus the World Governments need control what they do is to reset the economy. The Great Reset?

The order must be, create a world event of fear (Corvid-19).With fear ,Yes I will obey! (Just how priests etc ,where able to control the communuty,the society. Then the economy, the economy is destroyed. Then what? More tighter controls? What is it all leading too?

As yet I have no other solution,or what I can think about, such is this crazy mess that we are experiencing?