Where we are at.

[boingy]

I saw another baggies supporter today from my car window. Had a blue top on with an Albion badge. My initial reaction was to throw him a quid. Maybe I should sit in the town center with my dog and my Albion scalf, put a cap on the floor and see what I can make. This is how it feels right now.

[HampshireBaggy]

I have not posted for a long time due to logging in issues. I am finding it really difficult to work out what has gone wrong at our great club. The team that got us up now seems totally devoid of passion, effort and commitment! The performance yesterday was pathetic against a side languishing in league one! Where is the fight, spirit, the desire to do well !? I can forgive the fact that in other recent games we have been beaten by the better side but the lack of effort and fitness is alarming! Against Leeds the other week who we drew with earlier last year in the championship we were chasing shadows, they were light years fitter than us and far more up for it. What was Livermore doing on the half way line taking Grealish out? I know greasy Jack loves to look like he has been pole axed but Livermore should have more about him than to just play in to his hands! Something is horrendously wrong at the club and it is depressing viewing!

[boingy]

You know, I honestly believe that if we had started better we would have been ok. Just a bit of luck in those first 8 games. 3-0 up against Chelsea not being a draw for example. You mentioned the Livermore challenge which was no contact btw, I actually thought it was a brilliant tackle. I saw one the week after which was a very bad challenge (Plus contact) and the commentators said, the ref was right to give a yellow. That didn't happen with us. VAR. Red. Gone. Unfortunately we have gone so long now with negative results that there doesn't seem to be the will to live in the players let alone get a good result! THAT to me is the MAJOR problem now. Mental breakdown of the players psyche.

[baggieal]

You know, I honestly believe that if we had started better we would have been ok. Just a bit of luck in those first 8 games. 3-0 up against Chelsea not being a draw for example. You mentioned the Livermore challenge which was no contact btw, I actually thought it was a brilliant tackle. I saw one the week after which was a very bad challenge (Plus contact) and the commentators said, the ref was right to give a yellow. That didn't happen with us. VAR. Red. Gone. Unfortunately we have gone so long now with negative results that there doesn't seem to be the will to live in the players let alone get a good result! THAT to me is the MAJOR problem now. Mental breakdown of the players psyche.

Oh did dums on their salaries!! Whether there was contact or not - Livermore deserved to go!! Had there been contact he would have broken his leg!

The problem is - we struggled like hell since lock down with an average squad and luck with Brentford f ucking it up. We have now been found out in a top quality league!

The players just are not good enough. We have not had a decent forward since Gayle left and still don’t - our midfield with Sawyers and Livermore are as slow as a pensioner in a wheelchair - and our defence is like something from Laurel and Hardy!

There’s no dressing it up! This is the worst West Brom team seen for many years!!!!

A 20 year old kid on loan is the star of the show and has more energy and drive than the lot of them put together!! That tells the story!

[Leicesterbaggie]

I will admit that very little has gone our way this season regarding decisions and yes, possibly we could have had a few more points on the board had they done so. However, overall we have looked shambolic in defence, toothless in attack and lacking in bite and creativity in midfield. Our levels of fitness are also a cause for concern. These problems have been manifest both under Bilic and now Allardyce. So tell me, where does the problems lie? The only logical answer is with the players and the fact that many of them are not of Premier League standard. The most worrying thing of all is that they don't look 'up for the fight'. Of course we have been badly let down by Lai and the fact that he has put nothing into strengthening the squad but that doesn't mean that the players that we have got should not give of their best on all occasions. I may be doing them a disservice but that's how it appears to me.

[Joy_Division]

The chances are for most of this team this will be their only chance of playing in the Premiership so you would think they would be busting a gut to do as well as possible and be prepared to run until they drop. But is appears it ain't in 'em. I think the stupid money they are paid makes them feel entitled and lazy with an attitude of well if we win great, if we lose so what I still get my money whatever.
You will get a 17 year old given a contract for 2 or 3 grand a week and he will be like a dog with two dicks. Its like easy come and all he has to do is turn up to training and run around for a couple of hours before the rest of the day is his. A couple of years ago I asked one of my grandsons what he wanted to be when he was older. He was 13 then and had football scouts looking at him and taking him for trials. He said obviously a football player but his reason was because you get loads and loads of money and I can have a big house and a fancy car. Not once did he mention his love for playing the game at any level or for the fun and enjoyment.

[boingy]

We could have been just below mid table if things had gone our way early on. Bilic would still be here and the mood would be very different. We do have some decent players but now most of them are very low mentally. Livermores tackle was a peach. and he got the ball cleanly whilst Greasy jack did what he does best which is make it look worse, but hey, other players tackle far worse and get nothing. West brom have had the worst decision most times. That was then and this is now. Now things don't look good at all. I agree with Al when it comes to the lock down though, we came out of that a different looking team. Struggling most of the time. I know a lot of teams were affected by it, but we have been blown out of the water by it it seems.

[DaveP67 is back!]

You are right Boingy, sadly we are now an embarrassment of a club clutching at straws to stay in the division at all costs, I would have rather stuck with Bilic had a go in games and seen where the pieces landed, dross from here until relegation I am afraid and the soul we were starting to get back has been ripped out so when we do go down we risk a deep demise. Lai Out!!

[boingy]

You are right Boingy, sadly we are now an embarrassment of a club clutching at straws to stay in the division at all costs, I would have rather stuck with Bilic had a go in games and seen where the pieces landed, dross from here until relegation I am afraid and the soul we were starting to get back has been ripped out so when we do go down we risk a deep demise. Lai Out!!

I cant help thinking after the great result away to Man city that if Bilic stayed we wouldn't have lost 0-3 to Villa. We just don't know, but from Bilic to Big Sam is as big a change in styles you can imagine. Like having a lobotomy.

[baggieal]

I cant help thinking after the great result away to Man city that if Bilic stayed we wouldn't have lost 0-3 to Villa. We just don't know, but from Bilic to Big Sam is as big a change in styles you can imagine. Like having a lobotomy.

I agree Boingy with you! Bilic made one grave error though and that was persisting with Sawyers and Phillips. When you have no engine you can’t feed the attack and the defence become exposed. These two players especially have both been shocking consistently since lock down!! Remember Huddersfield away when we had to win - no fight and no soul? Phillips started that match too before being dragged off! Bilic had to be ruthless and he wasn’t! Ok - there were not many options but he should have demanded players come in - used Field/Harper more but you can’t stay loyal to flops!