O/T Most tiresome poster

[KCNotts]

Kewell aside, who was effectively a caretaker for the time he lasted, the past 4 years has been among the most stable at Notts in terms of managers post Sirrel, and yet we're now stuck at the lowest level we've ever been.

What if a manager was poached half way or two thirds of a way through the season and the club still went up? That's not stability but it would be the preferable option, given the choice.

You can stabalise and do poorly, as we did with McP until Munto came in and then sacked him.

It's a meaningless buzzword devoid of any context. Successful clubs at lower levels will often struggle to hang on to their manager. Wishing for stability is just as likely a wish for mediocrity. You want stability in the boardroom but where it matters you want to uproot trees and make things happen. I don't see Ardley doing that, he's too nice to do that. The biggest problem I have with him is that he is a nice person, I'd feel much more confident about Notts going up if we had somebody who was a bit of a ****.

Great post this.

Cotterill came in during the most turbulent season in recent history and got us romping the league. He galvanised a good squad of players with the correct tactics, organisation and attitude.

Ardley is a really nice guy and it makes criticising him feel wrong at times...until you remember that this is not a personality contest and that being nice wins you nothing.

It still blows my mind that he was part of the Crazy Gang at Wimbledon.

[irishpete]

If that was true you might have a point.

See you later, I guess you will have your excuses ready if we win 😉

What will be Ardleys IF we lose

Not played for a while
They played last week
Have a good manager
Good team/squad
Pressed us high up(sussed us out)
Not up for it
A snowflake fell out the sky
Groundsman used the wrong mower

[upthemaggies]

It still blows my mind that he was part of the Crazy Gang at Wimbledon.

I'd associate the Crazy Gang with Dave Bassett's time as manager and Bobby Gould when they won the FA Cup. The nickname stuck because it was Wimbledon but by the time Ardley made his debut Ray Harford or Peter Withe was in charge and Ardley made most of his appearances in the latter half of the 90s into the 00s under Joe Kinnear, playing at other club's grounds (Crystal Palace for the most part).
So I'm not sure he's absorbed much of that mentality, he certainly doesn't play like it.

[laddo]

Come on Pete you know the rules better than most. If we win it was lucky or due to the players. If we lose it was the manager's fault

It's an easy rule to follow each week.

[countygump]

Come on Pete you know the rules better than most. If we win it was lucky or due to the players. If we lose it was the manager's fault

It's an easy rule to follow each week.

Only on NCM.

[CamPie]

I’ll stick to my comments of last week that I don’t find any poster particular tiresome and I try to ignore the bigotry that often comes out. The most tiresome are the threads that deteriorate into childish slanging matches that go on and on and ruin otherwise interesting discussions. The regular group that partake become the most tiresome as a group imo.

[Davy500]

A bit harsh to say that people like me got Nolan sacked...was I glad he got sacked? Absolutely, but it was a mixture of ineptitude, unprofessionalism, terrible football, and even worse results that saw the back of him, not my ‘lack of support’ so to speak. When he was in charge I ended up not going as a vote of no confidence in him or his methods, I didn’t stand behind him shouting insults.

Granted, he managed to motivate a team when they were at a low ebb but he soon lost momentum and then continued on a slow decline until the inevitable happened. I don’t wish him harm, I just wish to never see him, or a manager with a similar approach, manage Notts again!

As for Laddo, I think he makes the most valid and logical arguments against the other protagonists on here...he should probably refrain from making them just so frequently against the people who I think are probably just trolling himself but that’s his prerogative.

Im am not saying Nolan was without faults, but his record overall was good

What i can not understand is that people wanted , and say Nolan deserved to be sacked, then are quite happy to say how great Ardley is, and that he should be given more time, the mentality is just baffles me

You say you ending up not going when Nolan was there, due to ineptitude, terrible football, worse results, all things Ardley is far worse at than Nolan, yet you stand by Ardley??

[PedroTheFisherman66]

Come on Pete you know the rules better than most. If we win it was lucky or due to the players. If we lose it was the manager's fault

It's an easy rule to follow each week.

Let's not forget the classic golden rule..!
If we get relegated it's the chairmans fault...!!!

[irishpete]

Come on Pete you know the rules better than most. If we win it was due to the players. If we lose it was the manager's fault

It's an easy rule to follow each week.

Funny that laddo, 99% of Owners think that way too. That's why Managers get sacked

[laddo]

Let's not forget the classic golden rule..!
If we get relegated it's the chairmans fault...!!!

Naahhh don't be silly Ken.

He may have sacked Nolan after only a handful of games that season. Expensively hired Kewell and sacked him soon after at more expense and then hired the Ardley who wasn't up to the job of keeping us up.

All whilst recklessly overspending to chase his much advertised dream of reaching the Championship and putting the club's existence in danger before advertising it for sale whilst in a relegation battle.

It can't be his fault because remember he can't kick the ball, stop the cross, or score the one on one. That's the players job right?

Best to keep things simple.