Nobody getting out of here.

[BCram]

By "stay safe"....what do you mean?

Following the Facts system

[Returnofrros]

Following the Facts system

Lost me, is that a Scottish govt thing?

I thought you meant reliefow or something, Ken when you got to high ground you were safe.

[Deeranged]

By "stay safe"....what do you mean?

Wear a hard hat when walking under scaffolding?

[Returnofrros]

Wear a hard hat when walking under scaffolding?

Ahh right.

Got it.

Dinnae use a hairdryer in the bath kinda thing.

[Deeranged]

Ahh right.

Got it.

Dinnae use a hairdryer in the bath kinda thing.

Similar - same as dinnae lave yer lectric blanket on in case ya pish the bed (Islay take note)

[BCram]

You two are having a laugh at my expense! Well done, its nice to see you both feeling chirpy!

[Deeranged]

You two are having a laugh at my expense! Well done, its nice to see you both feeling chirpy!

Laughing with you BCram not at you.

The statement 'stay safe' used in conjunction with a virus means very little to someone like me who has worked in genuinely hazardous situations where threat to safety was very real.

[Returnofrros]

You two are having a laugh at my expense! Well done, its nice to see you both feeling chirpy!

Dinnae laugh but......I see you as Mads version of a barometer of very sensible mainstream public opinion.....and I have sensed you moving your view of things in the last few weeks....a bit more sceptical of Govts, looking for ways to unlock society and slightly ever so slightly fearful that lockdowns and tiers may continue.

It gives me hope.😁

I'd take it as a compliment.

[Taintedice]

I watched a bit of daytime TV. They had an icu nurse who was interviewed. She absolutely rubbished the stories about icu being full of empty beds. She claimed that the staff were working 16 hour days 7 days a week because of staff shortages. There seems to be a wide variation in the amount of activity in icu departments. That's possibly the truth, so both versions of icu activity are correct. The conclusions that you make from this should be that an aggregate of the number of icu occupants expressed as a percentage of the number of beds available in the hospitals should be given. I think that would help to establish a baseline. The actual occupancy of each local hospital could then be given. I would imagine that a high occupancy rate would encourage local residents to try harder to stay safe.

The problem with the covid deniers on here is that they keep switching between Scotland and England, I don't think they know which country they live in tbh. There is relatively little covid in Tayside, because it's an area that is willing to follow Scotgov restrictions. Then you go further west, and people there are more antagonistic towards Scotgov because they like union jacks and bulldog tattoos. So you end up with ICU being packed with covid cases in those regions, and less so in places like Tayside. My dad was in Ninewells for emergency surgery a fortnight ago, taken in on the Friday, assessed Sat morning, operation Sat afternoon, home on Sunday. The NHS is open and it is working, don't believe the covidiots.

RIP to the family in Derby who believed Johnson when he said it was fine to meet up for Christmas and all four of them are now dead.

[Returnofrros]

Dinnae laugh but......I see you as Mads version of a barometer of very sensible mainstream public opinion.....and I have sensed you moving your view of things in the last few weeks....a bit more sceptical of Govts, looking for ways to unlock society and slightly ever so slightly fearful that lockdowns and tiers may continue.

It gives me hope.😁

I'd take it as a compliment.

Others I see as a barometer of bull.😉