Yet more lies perpetuating panic

[islaydarkblue]

How can you possibly know what I claim if you have me 'on ignore'?

Strange thing about both RRoS and me, we have minds of our own and we form our own opinions and they're not always the same. Difference is we don't resort to name calling if we disagree.

I have previously posted on here that when I had my first Covid-19 test in Kings Cross Hospital at the beginning of last June which was negative I had a discussion with the Public Health Scotland doctor who told me that the health authorities expected that 7% of the population would contract the Covid-19 virus. That did not mean that they would all die from it nor did it mean that they would die solely from the Covid-19 virus. However Nicola and the dentist are giving the impression that all the people who have died in Scotland have died solely from the Covid-19 virus which is a lot of nonsense.
Nicola despite what she says is lapping up being on the BBC1 in Scotland from 12.15 -1pm every day from Monday to Thursday. she is rarely on the TV as politicians throughout the U.K. including Holyrood never work on Friday.
It is also ensuring that the Alex Salmond investigation is not headline news when it should be.

[Taintedice]

However Nicola and the dentist are giving the impression that all the people who have died in Scotland have died solely from the Covid-19 virus which is a lot of nonsense.

agreed. they all had a covid positive test then met a really freakish accidental death, mostly death by 1B, or fell down the stairs etc.

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agreed. they all had a covid positive test then met a really freakish accidental death, mostly death by 1B, or fell down the stairs etc.

I'd imagine most were individuals with an underlying condition many of whom tested positive within the previous 28 days and who died of the underlying condition with Covid-19 as a possible contributory factor. Obviously some will also have fallen victim to unfortunate accidents, unexpected strokes, heart attacks etc.

The drum I keep banging is related to the presentation of numbers designed solely to play on people's emotions, a bit like the nurse crying on the news after a shift where she only managed to walk away from her work station three times - twice for tik tok videos and once to clap a 'brave Covid survivor' (which was filmed for TV of course). I want relevant percentages - what percentage of the test numbers we're given were people presenting for a test having shown symptoms and what percentage of them tested positive? What percentage of positive tests end up in hospital? ICU? Morgue? What's the percentage increase in total deaths by all causes between the start of the breakout and now compared to the average over the last five years? Of the hundreds of thousands of tests what percentage are discrete individuals and how many are repeats on NHS staff etc? These things will tell us how much real effect this Covid is having.

I'm not a Covid denier or Covidiot like you tend to call anyone that disagrees with you, I just like to know the facts and we're not being given relevant ones.

Instead we're told the death toll reached 100,000 in the UK (sold as directly caused by Covid, but not) accompanied by sombre music and 'tributes to the dead' on the BBC. Does anyone remember back in the Soviet Union days TASS would go off air and only play sombre music as a way of telling people the president had died of alcohol poisoning? We're now seeing the state controlled BBC behave exactly like TASS.

[islaydarkblue]

I'd imagine most were individuals with an underlying condition many of whom tested positive within the previous 28 days and who died of the underlying condition with Covid-19 as a possible contributory factor. Obviously some will also have fallen victim to unfortunate accidents, unexpected strokes, heart attacks etc.

The drum I keep banging is related to the presentation of numbers designed solely to play on people's emotions, a bit like the nurse crying on the news after a shift where she only managed to walk away from her work station three times - twice for tik tok videos and once to clap a 'brave Covid survivor' (which was filmed for TV of course). I want relevant percentages - what percentage of the test numbers we're given were people presenting for a test having shown symptoms and what percentage of them tested positive? What percentage of positive tests end up in hospital? ICU? Morgue? What's the percentage increase in total deaths by all causes between the start of the breakout and now compared to the average over the last five years? Of the hundreds of thousands of tests what percentage are discrete individuals and how many are repeats on NHS staff etc? These things will tell us how much real effect this Covid is having.

I'm not a Covid denier or Covidiot like you tend to call anyone that disagrees with you, I just like to know the facts and we're not being given relevant ones.

Instead we're told the death toll reached 100,000 in the UK (sold as directly caused by Covid, but not) accompanied by sombre music and 'tributes to the dead' on the BBC. Does anyone remember back in the Soviet Union days TASS would go off air and only play sombre music as a way of telling people the president had died of alcohol poisoning? We're now seeing the state controlled BBC behave exactly like TASS.

Public Health Scotland have changed the rules for receiving a Covid-19 test.
Last October 2020 I had a Covid-19 test at Kings Cross Hospital because I had an upper respiratory tract infection.
On 29th December 2020 I had the same symptoms as last October 2020. I phoned NHS 24 and expected to be sent for yet another Covid-19 test. However I was informed that I no longer qualified for a Covid-19 test and I would have to contact a GP practice which I did and yet again I was suffering from another upper respiratory tract infection.
I have subsequently discovered that following Nicola and Jason’s advice to stay indoors to beat the Covid-19 virus this results in a breeding ground for upper respiratory tract infections and chest infections. People should go for a walk every day to get fresh air.
If I had taken the Covid-19 test under the previous rules the number of tests would have increased by one but the percentage of positive cases would have been fractionally lower. That is why there has been on one occasion over 12% of tests in a 24 hour period testing positive for Covid-19. They are now only testing people who fit the reduced criteria such as a loss of smell or taste, having a fever or being very breathless. Outwith this criteria you do not qualify for a Covid-19 test in Scotland despite health experts stating that one in three people in the U.K. are unaware that they have the Covid-19 virus.
Last summer the number of deaths from people having previously had a positive test were reduced because the ‘powers that be’ had been including a positive test for Covid-19 anytime in the past to the new rules of having a positive test in the previous 28 days.
In my opinion the politicians and Health experts keep changing the rules to suit their own agenda.
The Chinese government have a lot to answer and in my opinion they are trying to take over the Western world in the same way as they have taken over poor countries in Northern Africa.

[Taintedice]

I'd imagine most were individuals with an underlying condition many of whom tested positive within the previous 28 days and who died of the underlying condition with Covid-19 as a possible contributory factor. Obviously some will also have fallen victim to unfortunate accidents, unexpected strokes, heart attacks etc.

There is no disputing that repiratory viruses will impact more on people who aren't in good health, that is no great revelation. None of these people whether they be obese, have asthma, have diabetes would have died without having contracting covid so the fact remains, they died because they contracted a deadly virus. You actually think doctors are part of the great conspiracy to control our lives, that is bat**** crazy talk. If you look at ONS stats from last spring, they show thousands of excess deaths over and above the 5-year average where covid was not mentioned on the death certificate. This would be because covid was a new thing about people weren't being tested for it, they were turning up to hospital in critical condition and dying. These were not counted as covid deaths. I just don't get this 'it doesn't count because they have plooks' type of thinking. People can live for decades with health problems, they don't just drop dead suddenly for no reason just as virus is circulating.

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There is no disputing that repiratory viruses will impact more on people who aren't in good health, that is no great revelation. None of these people whether they be obese, have asthma, have diabetes would have died without having contracting covid so the fact remains, they died because they contracted a deadly virus. You actually think doctors are part of the great conspiracy to control our lives, that is bat**** crazy talk. If you look at ONS stats from last spring, they show thousands of excess deaths over and above the 5-year average where covid was not mentioned on the death certificate. This would be because covid was a new thing about people weren't being tested for it, they were turning up to hospital in critical condition and dying. These were not counted as covid deaths. I just don't get this 'it doesn't count because they have plooks' type of thinking. People can live for decades with health problems, they don't just drop dead suddenly for no reason just as virus is circulating.

Don't put words in my mouth.

Never have I said doctors are part of any conspiracy, in fact I've never said there's any conspiracy - it's an exercise in social control, no more and no less.

To suggest none of the people with asthma, COPD, heart conditions etc. would have died at all in that time is what's bat**** crazy. They tested positive for Covid and they died, they could have got colds then died but the cold would not be the primary cause of death.

But you know all of the above and are simply trolling again.