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    ... spot the difference ...
    Area: England 130,000 sq km; Canada 9.9m sq km; Australia 7.7m sq km
    Population: London 9m; Canada 40m; Australia 26m
    Accepting some failures in the UK, it's much easier to control travel in Canada and Oz. Overcrowded living conditions in the UK must be a factor. ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheBlackHorse View Post
    ... spot the difference ...
    Area: England 130,000 sq km; Canada 9.9m sq km; Australia 7.7m sq km
    Population: London 9m; Canada 40m; Australia 26m
    Accepting some failures in the UK, it's much easier to control travel in Canada and Oz. Overcrowded living conditions in the UK must be a factor. ...
    Quite right BH, population density should be factored in. In the countries named, Canada and Australia, there are huge areas with no population at all. If it were possible to calculate a country's area where people actually live and their numbers of Covid deaths, then compare the UK figures with those such as Australia and Canada and other "civilised" countries the results may be somewhat similar to the UK's. If we could scatter our population over a greater area there would certainly be less person to person contact and so less contagion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LaxtonLad View Post
    Quite right BH, population density should be factored in. In the countries named, Canada and Australia, there are huge areas with no population at all. If it were possible to calculate a country's area where people actually live and their numbers of Covid deaths, then compare the UK figures with those such as Australia and Canada and other "civilised" countries the results may be somewhat similar to the UK's. If we could scatter our population over a greater area there would certainly be less person to person contact and so less contagion.
    Japan has had 5,503 deaths. They are far more densely populated than us, much nearer to Wuhan so had less time to prepare and like us are an island.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mapperleypie View Post
    Japan has had 5,503 deaths. They are far more densely populated than us, much nearer to Wuhan so had less time to prepare and like us are an island.
    As I’ve heard elsewhere, we need the vaccine to protect us from Boris Johnson.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mapperleypie View Post
    Japan has had 5,503 deaths. They are far more densely populated than us, much nearer to Wuhan so had less time to prepare and like us are an island.
    ... and the Japanese are both generally a well mannered society as well as having a history of doing what their government tells them, whether right or wrong. Carry on then ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheBlackHorse View Post
    ... and the Japanese are both generally a well mannered society as well as having a history of doing what their government tells them, whether right or wrong. Carry on then ...
    Plus wearing a mask is part of their everyday outdoor clothing, it's almost part of their national costume.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mapperleypie View Post
    Japan has had 5,503 deaths. They are far more densely populated than us, much nearer to Wuhan so had less time to prepare and like us are an island.
    True, but they have much less international travel (inbound / outbound) which will also be a factor. The UK is a much more significant international travel hub, with approximately 3x the volume of international travellers than Japan. It does beg the question though why it took the UK a year to close its borders.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Evesham Pie View Post
    It does beg the question though why it took the UK a year to close its borders.
    It certainly does, it's a wrong-headed policy decision. You only have to look at the crowds at sporting events in Aus and NZ to see that by effectively closing their borders and using quarantine effectively these countries (whilst severely limited in regards to international travel) are pretty much back to normal day-to-day and they don't have 100,000 dead.

    Given this is a government that has a mandate to be tough on immigration and would have had strong support across the political spectrum for operating a tough border policy in regards to COVID you do have to wonder what the issue is.

    As with PPE and Track and Trace I'm sure it will become clear that the border policy was based around the wealth of a Tory donor or a friend of the Tories, there is no other rational explanation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Evesham Pie View Post
    True, but they have much less international travel (inbound / outbound) which will also be a factor. The UK is a much more significant international travel hub, with approximately 3x the volume of international travellers than Japan. It does beg the question though why it took the UK a year to close its borders.
    Countries like New Zealand have done well but you can't compare it to the UK, their nearest neighbour is over a 3 hour plane journey away and they only have a 4 million population.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LaxtonLad View Post
    Quite right BH, population density should be factored in. In the countries named, Canada and Australia, there are huge areas with no population at all. If it were possible to calculate a country's area where people actually live and their numbers of Covid deaths, then compare the UK figures with those such as Australia and Canada and other "civilised" countries the results may be somewhat similar to the UK's. If we could scatter our population over a greater area there would certainly be less person to person contact and so less contagion.
    You’re absolutely correct that Canada and Australia have huge areas with no population at all, which completely contradicts your attempted point that our death rate is equivalent to yours. Try again.

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