Yet more lies perpetuating panic

[grantzer]

It wouldn't be all those people alive.

Sage minuted meeting with Boris and cabinet....."the public ain't sufficiently scared enough"

If I ever start playing golf again I might get you with a stray ball, never could hit the thing straight.

And anyway as a compulsive denier I'd just say it was suicide.

Or you just wouldn't answer the question......

[Taintedice]

Seems strange that the guy tested positive, was sent home to isolate so clearly wasn't particularly ill, and died the next day.

Also strange that nowhere does it say he had no underlying condition, maybe that should be assumed because it doesn't say he did. He was clearly a bit simple though, most conspiracy theorists are.

Your entire post is conspiracy theory ffs he was a covid-denier, he refused to follow any of the rules, he contracted covid, he died. At 46. With no underlying conditions. The end.

[Taintedice]

You shouldn't have to scare people by exaggerating the truth, remember they said...

1 million dead later reduced to 500k.

70% of over 70 year olds hospitalised.

4000 dead per week if we have Xmas

Hospitals always being overwhelmed.

There's been around 60 odd thousand deaths last year than 5 year ave if I mind right.

How many of those people would have been taken within a few months?

How many would have been taken by normal flu?

How many would be alive if they still had family contact?

How many would be alive if they had received cancer stroke or heart attack treatment when required.

Some of your points are very valid but please the 100k figure is impossible to debate.

All these stats were without a lockdown, are the covidiots really this dense or just desperately scrabbling around to prove themselves right as over 1000 die in England every day.

ONS put excess deaths in England at 70,000. These are not people who would have died anyway, this is why they are recorded as excess deaths.

Also in 2018-19, 4000 people died of flu.

[BCram]

All these stats were without a lockdown, are the covidiots really this dense or just desperately scrabbling around to prove themselves right as over 1000 die in England every day.

ONS put excess deaths in England at 70,000. These are not people who would have died anyway, this is why they are recorded as excess deaths.

Also in 2018-19, 4000 people died of flu.

Genuine question, how are excess deaths calculated? It seems odd that the figure for covid deaths is 100k and yet the excess deaths are 70k.

[Taintedice]

Donald Trump famously denied covid existed, he held rallies all over the states, no masks, no social distancing, nothing.

30,000 infections and 700 deaths traced back to these rallies.

Dumb MAGA phukks.

[Deeranged]

With no underlying conditions.

You have evidence of that and you're absolutely certain Covid was the cause? Don't say he tested positive so it was Covid that killed him, that doesn't really wash.

[Taintedice]

Genuine question, how are excess deaths calculated? It seems odd that the figure for covid deaths is 100k and yet the excess deaths are 70k.

It's a simple comparison of total deaths in 2020 with a rolling 5-year average. What it says is that 30k out of the 100k would have died in 2020 without covid, which is easily understood as many of the victims were people with not long to go anyway. This is the whole rationale behind the right-wing conspiracy theories, people are old and would die anyway. What they refuse to believe is that the virus left unchecked would have killed far more outside of care homes and hospitals. Just check Maunus in Brazil.

[Returnofrros]

Irish deputy pm.

No international travel this summer and Xmas 2021 and perhaps indefinitely if we are serious about zero covid.

Been saying it for months they ain't letting up.

[Returnofrros]

Genuine question, how are excess deaths calculated? It seems odd that the figure for covid deaths is 100k and yet the excess deaths are 70k.

Still plenty of time to waste

[Deeranged]

Genuine question, how are excess deaths calculated? It seems odd that the figure for covid deaths is 100k and yet the excess deaths are 70k.

Excess deaths are calculated by taking the typical number of deaths over a period for the preceding years then taking that number from the number of deaths in the corresponding period being analyzed. The remaining number can be considered excess although obviously it isn't absolutely accurate.

There were 616,000 deaths in the UK in 2018. Can't find any details for 2020 but would hope Tainted will know this. If it isn't at least 716,000 somebody's theory is blasted right out of the water.