Death threats to Mike Dean (ref) and his family

[MillersTime]

Comes down to the fact he wouldn't of got the penalty if he didn't go down. Always been the case, when do you see someone fouled, stay up and get the penalty? Not often. This encourages players to go down

[WanChaiMiller]

Yes they got it wrong, but they got it wrong after a long spell of checking and thinking about it. Not a spur of the moment, in the heat if the action type getting it wrong.

And? What?

[caytonmiller]

he pulled his arm in the air. his elbow hit mitrovic on the head. was it intent, prob not but he raised his arm and gave the ref a decision. dont put you arm in that position then he stays on the pitch. simples.

[MILLERSTALE]

I believe Lee Mason was on var and obviously brought this to the attention of Dean, so this puts Dean under pressure thinking Mason thinks it’s a sending off and bingo, that’s the way I’ve went.

For two top flight refs to get this wrong is very, very worrying !!

Do they seriously understand the game !

[Grist_To_The_Mill]

I believe Lee Mason was on var and obviously brought this to the attention of Dean, so this puts Dean under pressure thinking Mason thinks it’s a sending off and bingo, that’s the way I’ve went.

For two top flight refs to get this wrong is very, very worrying !!

Do they seriously understand the game !

More worrying was that Mason was basing his decision on the player having clenched fists, even though fists never came into it.

[redhouse]

More worrying was that Mason was basing his decision on the player having clenched fists, even though fists never came into it.

I think the clenched fist theory is that if you've clenched your fist and elbowed someone you have meant to whereas if your fist is not clenched you've elbowed them accidentally . Which you can see to a point if you are stood but if you are jumping for a high ball you are more likely to have your fists clenched whilst moving your arms anyway

[Grist_To_The_Mill]

I think the clenched fist theory is that if you've clenched your fist and elbowed someone you have meant to whereas if your fist is not clenched you've elbowed them accidentally . Which you can see to a point if you are stood but if you are jumping for a high ball you are more likely to have your fists clenched whilst moving your arms anyway

You see they are looking for the controversial

A bit like law where you are innocent until proved guilty, with var you are guilty and they are looking for a way to confirm it.

Common sense has flown out of the window

[redhouse]

You see they are looking for the controversial

A bit like law where you are innocent until proved guilty, with var you are guilty and they are looking for a way to confirm it.

Common sense has flown out of the window

I must admit I wasn't against var when they first fetched it in but having seen some of the decisions being made even with var I'm losing all faith in it . At the end of the day it's down to new rules making it almost a non contact sport and the decisions are down to two useless referees not just one

[Grist_To_The_Mill]

None of the managers like it either, and not just those that’s been in the rough end of decisions

[BramleyMiller58]

Need to put a time limit/no of screen shots on the VAR decision making

If they can't view it twice and see an issue then it ain't "Clear and Obvious"