Mark Ogren....

[GUNBOAT]

How much is it he is supposed to be worth and why is it a big if?There must be an amount he is worth if you are not happy with the amount of his money he is putting in I would think you would have to know what he is worth and how much of that is disposable so he can just put it into our club would also have to think you would know exactly how much he has put in up to now to complain he is not putting in enough.Well most of us are not moaning about how much the fans have put in but some are they are complaining that the foundation money is being used to help our club when they think it should be kept in the bank and the business man who has said from the very start he is in this to make money should pay for everything.I personally think most members of foundation are happy to give utd the money are raising to help them obviously some are not and probably voted not to help utd doubt it would have made any difference though as I say think most will be happy to help think that is reason most joined foundation.Can't speak for majority of fans but don't think majority would expect owner just to keep punting money in nonstop without some help from fans even if he has unlimited finances.I do agree as I have said that saying season should be stopped etc was stupid and doing business with foundation in public was stupid and just gets some supporters upset.

I voted to give the club the money but that's auld news as it was posted weeks ago,it was not giving the money that was difficult it was the way it was asked for.Lets forget what Ogren is worth for a minute and look at what the club financially is generating this season.

1 Over 5000 season tickets sold.
2 TV revenue from home matches.
3 Merchandise sold in the club shop.
4 £200,000 from DUSF.
5 Prize money up to around £1,500,000 depending on league position.
6 Legal fees paid by the supporters and subsequently Hearts who were ordered to pay costs.
7 A possible insurance pay out.
8 An interest free loan of up to £1,600,000 with nothing to repay until 2022 and paid back over twenty years.

I am sure the owner will be able to recover the money he is putting in now at the end of the season and other club owners will be doing the same.

[Bannons boots]

Does anyone know what the clubs outgoings are per season to see what difference is compared to our perceived incomings

[GUNBOAT]

I haven't slagged United fans for giving the club money...fans giving money is the reason my club is still alive...like other people have said on this thread MO has left an open goal for people to have a pop...and I like that ������

That's not trolling he is simply stating a FACT.

[GUNBOAT]

The only people having a pop are people who think it is wrong for foundation to give utd money.I doubt you find this wrong but troll GB etc to wind them up about it and make out it is wrong.You're support did chip in and try to help once they got to the 6p in the £.Our foundation is stepping in before it gets to that stage.You having digs about the foundation money does not bother me in the slightest I hate to see utd supporters getting upset about it though and think you going on about it to GB ect does not help.

You are completely missing the point about the foundation and the money paid to United,there is nothing wrong with that whatsoever.Its the way they went about getting the money as if without it Wagner was singing.
If we were listed on the Stock Exchange our shares would have collapsed after listening to an hour of Tony and that's a FACT.

[GUNBOAT]

I voted to give the club the money but that's auld news as it was posted weeks ago,it was not giving the money that was difficult it was the way it was asked for.Lets forget what Ogren is worth for a minute and look at what the club financially is generating this season.

1 Over 5000 season tickets sold.
2 TV revenue from home matches.
3 Merchandise sold in the club shop.
4 £200,000 from DUSF.
5 Prize money up to around £1,500,000 depending on league position.
6 Legal fees paid by the supporters and subsequently Hearts who were ordered to pay costs.
7 A possible insurance pay out.
8 An interest free loan of up to £1,600,000 with nothing to repay until 2022 and paid back over twenty years.

I am sure the owner will be able to recover the money he is putting in now at the end of the season and other club owners will be doing the same.

I forgot to add sponsors money although it maybe impacted by the virus companies will still be supporting the club as their brand is on TV seen by thousands every single week we play.

[AraBrian]

I voted to give the club the money but that's auld news as it was posted weeks ago,it was not giving the money that was difficult it was the way it was asked for.Lets forget what Ogren is worth for a minute and look at what the club financially is generating this season.

1 Over 5000 season tickets sold.
2 TV revenue from home matches.
3 Merchandise sold in the club shop.
4 £200,000 from DUSF.
5 Prize money up to around £1,500,000 depending on league position.
6 Legal fees paid by the supporters and subsequently Hearts who were ordered to pay costs.
7 A possible insurance pay out.
8 An interest free loan of up to £1,600,000 with nothing to repay until 2022 and paid back over twenty years.

I am sure the owner will be able to recover the money he is putting in now at the end of the season and other club owners will be doing the same.

Season ticket money yip tv money for home games doubt they make a fortune of that as season ticket holders get free but wee bit will help merchandise with no home crowds and out of towners not even allowed near shop I would guess would be down on what it would have been only a guess though don't know the numbers the money from the foundation has been great and I would bet a good help prize money won't get till near start of next season so will either help with depts or go to next seasons expenses but did have some money from last seasons championship winI think the legal fees were paid by hearts and have no Idea what has happened to money raised obviously would be happy for money I put in to go to utd running costs but others would not and don't know what they are doing with itThink they will just have to wait and see what happens with insurance payment Have they now been given the £1,600,000 loan thats great news never knew about that and will help loads.Does the owner have millions that he can just pump in lying about a lot of people with a lot of business interests are worth a lot of money but don't have it just lying about to pump in to our club I don't know if he has.We have lost loads of money with no crowds away support pay at gate supporters pie sale programe sales hospitality etc so really don't think any club owners apart from rancid will be loving this season and not got a clue where they getting all there money know its not one owner though.

[AraBrian]

I forgot to add sponsors money although it maybe impacted by the virus companies will still be supporting the club as their brand is on TV seen by thousands every single week we play.

Agree they will probably still be getting some sponsorship money again don't know nubers but maybe companys bit tight with money in a pandemic not sure.

[AraBrian]

You are completely missing the point about the foundation and the money paid to United,there is nothing wrong with that whatsoever.Its the way they went about getting the money as if without it Wagner was singing.
If we were listed on the Stock Exchange our shares would have collapsed after listening to an hour of Tony and that's a FACT.

Only people who have to worry about share prices are share holders I'm just a fan and all I care about is utd surviving and doing best they can.As have said the nonsense about shutting season was stupid agree a bit about goverment giving £500,000 of my tax money to hearts who probably team in scotland who least needed it and part time teams like Arbroath and Alloa money to rugby clubs and lower league football clubs have no problem with them doing this but teams who probably need the money most got zilch.They are getting a loan at faverable rates to be fair.Diddlie players going on radio to join up with rancid people to have a go at utd does not put me up nor down just makes me think less of adam who is a decent player but obviously an arse interfering in our business.

[ahlltanyirhide]

You are completely missing the point about the foundation and the money paid to United,there is nothing wrong with that whatsoever.Its the way they went about getting the money as if without it Wagner was singing.
If we were listed on the Stock Exchange our shares would have collapsed after listening to an hour of Tony and that's a FACT.

Tony Ratner

[offshore_arab83]

I voted to give the club the money but that's auld news as it was posted weeks ago,it was not giving the money that was difficult it was the way it was asked for.Lets forget what Ogren is worth for a minute and look at what the club financially is generating this season.

1 Over 5000 season tickets sold.
2 TV revenue from home matches.
3 Merchandise sold in the club shop.
4 £200,000 from DUSF.
5 Prize money up to around £1,500,000 depending on league position.
6 Legal fees paid by the supporters and subsequently Hearts who were ordered to pay costs.
7 A possible insurance pay out.
8 An interest free loan of up to £1,600,000 with nothing to repay until 2022 and paid back over twenty years.

I am sure the owner will be able to recover the money he is putting in now at the end of the season and other club owners will be doing the same.

when you put it like that G its hard to argue with mate, money is coming in with potentials from the insurance policy and the option of the loan and yer right MO & TA did make out we were going doon the tubes fun style