Every day the vaccine rolls out

[TerryTheTerror]

Strictly speaking it's Sir Patrick Vallance and the UK task force you have to thank

https://www.thelancet.com/article/S0...175-9/fulltext

And credit where it's due on that front too. TBF the NHS are doing an incredible job rolling this out if they have got to me already. As I just said this morning I was quite cynical about when I was going to get it but there you go.

[Chick A Saw]

I'm cohort 7 terry and not heard anything either did not think they had started on 6 and 7 when only half way through 5 and not finished 4.I thought they would do majority of 5 before they started on 6 etc. Knew there would be a bit of an overlap but starting on 7 before half way through 5 does not make sense?

A reminder from what i brought here on Monday which was the first time that percentages had been mentioned for Cohort 5.

People aged 75-79 99.9% (99) so as well as done but im sure will still increase.
People aged 70-74 85% (78)% which is target met but im sure will still exceed 90% after today.
People aged 65-69 53% which i think is a staggering effort considering that this was going on in the background while completing the 2 higher cohorts was the focus.

I initially thought the percentage target was aligned to the 75% flu vaccine uptake, but this week Nic mentioned 80% was their success target, and i have to say there is only one figure missing that target, which being a part of a bigger Cohort probably still means the Cohort percentage still greatly exceeds the 90%, never mind 80%.

Right through the vaccine effort and while supply and capability started to ramp up, when the Cohorts in Focus were coming to a certain point, the next Cohort were starting to be invited. I cant remember the exact dates, but Cohort 3 started before 1 and 2 were completed, Cohort 4 started before 2 was completed and Cohort 5 invitations at least overlapped the very end of Cohort 1 and 2s completion.

Overlapping the next Cohort at the right time when completing the last Cohort, makes perfect sense to me as its pretty foolish stopping the vaccine effort to tidy up the stragglers. Although Cohort 3 kept up a similar pace until exceeding the estimate, these figures naturally tail off towards the end of the effort, and its overlapping that has ensured consistency in the daily figures and made this so much of a success.

[AraBrian]

A reminder from what i brought here on Monday which was the first time that percentages had been mentioned for Cohort 5.

People aged 75-79 99.9% (99) so as well as done but im sure will still increase.
People aged 70-74 85% (78)% which is target met but im sure will still exceed 90% after today.
People aged 65-69 53% which i think is a staggering effort considering that this was going on in the background while completing the 2 higher cohorts was the focus.

I initially thought the percentage target was aligned to the 75% flu vaccine uptake, but this week Nic mentioned 80% was their success target, and i have to say there is only one figure missing that target, which being a part of a bigger Cohort probably still means the Cohort percentage still greatly exceeds the 90%, never mind 80%.

Right through the vaccine effort and while supply and capability started to ramp up, when the Cohorts in Focus were coming to a certain point, the next Cohort were starting to be invited. I cant remember the exact dates, but Cohort 3 started before 1 and 2 were completed, Cohort 4 started before 2 was completed and Cohort 5 invitations at least overlapped the very end of Cohort 1 and 2s completion.

Overlapping the next Cohort at the right time when completing the last Cohort, makes perfect sense to me as its pretty foolish stopping the vaccine effort to tidy up the stragglers. Although Cohort 3 kept up a similar pace until exceeding the estimate, these figures naturally tail off towards the end of the effort, and its overlapping that has ensured consistency in the daily figures and made this so much of a success.

Yeah thought they would over lap but starting on 7 when only half way through 5 seems bit strange but not a problem.Yeah seen in the paper wee nic getting a bit of slagging for saying we had done all of over 70's while really had only done 80% which to be fair was her target but really should have said had met target not had done them all when 20% still to do.Especially because she keeps making the acusation that england only offered all there people in groups injections never forced them on them.

[Chick A Saw]

Yeah thought they would over lap but starting on 7 when only half way through 5 seems bit strange but not a problem.Yeah seen in the paper wee nic getting a bit of slagging for saying we had done all of over 70's while really had only done 80% which to be fair was her target but really should have said had met target not had done them all when 20% still to do.Especially because she keeps making the acusation that england only offered all there people in groups injections never forced them on them.

I really dont think people up here are being forced into this, and i think the uptake figures mirror the desire of the majority to get back to some sort of normality. I think its stunning that people are coming forward to exceed the estimates.

I think the slagging you are on about is based on Nic saying everyone over 70(cohort 4) has been offered their vaccination, which i think may also now extend to everyone in Cohort 5. She has always been at pains to say that daily figures and targets are based on people having been vaccinated, and all you are seeing is the consequences of the poor standard of journalism we are subjected to.

As to the accusations towards England, this is something i have been trying to clarify myself as i believe Boris is basing Engands "better" performance on the number of notifications delivered, rather than what should be the real measure that is jabs in arms! That however is a mute point as we are all doing very well with vaccine delivery, i just wish England would admit how good the are doing and share the data.

[AraBrian]

I really dont think people up here are being forced into this, and i think the uptake figures mirror the desire of the majority to get back to some sort of normality. I think its stunning that people are coming forward to exceed the estimates.

I think the slagging you are on about is based on Nic saying everyone over 70(cohort 4) has been offered their vaccination, which i think may also now extend to everyone in Cohort 5. She has always been at pains to say that daily figures and targets are based on people having been vaccinated, and all you are seeing is the consequences of the poor standard of journalism we are subjected to.

As to the accusations towards England, this is something i have been trying to clarify myself as i believe Boris is basing Engands "better" performance on the number of notifications delivered, rather than what should be the real measure that is jabs in arms! That however is a mute point as we are all doing very well with vaccine delivery, i just wish England would admit how good the are doing and share the data.

I don't think anyone up here or down there or any where is being forced to accept the vaccine.I do beleive when the brittish goverment say so many have been vaccinated that number is true and not a boris makey up.I do beleive that scotland got of to a slower start than the rest of britian but after a bit of prompting have got their finger out and are doing great.Wee nic kept making big thing out of how we had injected every person in such and such a level while england had only offered them vaccine and seems a lot of asian and blacks down south are refusing don't know what she wants them to do ?Seems they are trying there best to educate those that refuse because of false rumours etc.Only numbers I have seen from England and boris are numbers that have had injection not those he has offered it too.

[TerryTheTerror]

I do beleive that scotland got of to a slower start than the rest of britian but after a bit of prompting have got their finger out and are doing great.

What actually happened here is Scotland stuck to the JCVI priority list and made sure care home residents were done first and foremost. So when Scotland had done over 90% of this group England's figure was about 68%. Given this group are the most at-risk I think this was reasonable.

[AraBrian]

What actually happened here is Scotland stuck to the JCVI priority list and made sure care home residents were done first and foremost. So when Scotland had done over 90% of this group England's figure was about 68%. Given this group are the most at-risk I think this was reasonable.

Yeah agree the people who need it most should get it first.There was nothing to stop them giving to others while going round care homes though.Heard the bit about Britian was not giving them there fair share so they could not do enough people but that turned out to be false news.Think they have all admitted now that they were a bit slow to get of the mark but did get their act together and are doing great now as I said.Glad you are getting you're jab tonight.

[TerryTheTerror]

Glad you are getting you're jab tonight.

Cheers Brian. 👍

[Chick A Saw]

Yeah agree the people who need it most should get it first.There was nothing to stop them giving to others while going round care homes though.Heard the bit about Britian was not giving them there fair share so they could not do enough people but that turned out to be false news.Think they have all admitted now that they were a bit slow to get of the mark but did get their act together and are doing great now as I said.Glad you are getting you're jab tonight.

They were delivering the vaccine to others while prioritizing care homes though. As supply allowed, they were delivering vaccines to all care home residents and staff and not just the older care home residents and staff. At the same time they were vaccinating the NHS and social care frontline workers. There was 75000 excess vaccinations delivered during that time as well, with our very own Gunboat answering a late call!

Not sure where you are getting the fair share thing from as i dont remember seeing that. I do remember Ruth and the million allocation argument, but that was spinning the figures and really makes her look like a fool with the figures we are seeing now! Wish her paymasters would publish in depth data like we do, although we could do better!

I dont think any country in our union can be guilty of being slow in this though!

[AraBrian]

They were delivering the vaccine to others while prioritizing care homes though. As supply allowed, they were delivering vaccines to all care home residents and staff and not just the older care home residents and staff. At the same time they were vaccinating the NHS and social care frontline workers. There was 75000 excess vaccinations delivered during that time as well, with our very own Gunboat answering a late call!

Not sure where you are getting the fair share thing from as i dont remember seeing that. I do remember Ruth and the million allocation argument, but that was spinning the figures and really makes her look like a fool with the figures we are seeing now! Wish her paymasters would publish in depth data like we do, although we could do better!

I dont think any country in our union can be guilty of being slow in this though!

Yeah thats what I thought they would do others at same time as care homes numbers just were not up with other three home nations at start which they did rectify after it was pointed out and think they even did better than other home nations on certain occasions.I am not slagging them you seem like usual looking for an argument and can't really be bothered to be honest.They did say they were not getting enough vaccine to give out while all other home nations were doing better then admited they did have enough to do more thats where the getting a fair share comes from.I thought we were ruth's paymasters but obviously like usual you know different.Have said Scotland are now doing great but don't let that get in you're way of an arguement.I am really not interested in you're opinion I don't even usually read you're posts unless they are addressed to me or quote what I have posted looking for a silly little argument like usual.