O/T. The Government's handling of Covid

[Trickytreesreds]

Focussing on the positive again sorry, I’m in for my jab tomorrow, and (not mentioned by anyone else I don’t think) I have a date for my second one too, May 7th! Someone knows something about the security of supplies that we don’t...

You should get a second date immediately on the agreed 1st dose date.
Everyone I know did. I'm early April

[Trickytreesreds]

He seems reluctant to give Johnson and his government any credit here.

He doesn't like Johnson or the Tories. I get that and it is his right to feel that way.
I have asked him for an alternative before and got no where with that. I even told him to stand, seeing as he is so knowledgable.
All he does is lash out. He sounds like the far left we have here, or the democrats in the US.
moan/criticise/scream with no ideas.

Talking of which, now Trumps gone, what's changed?
Absolutely nothing apart from 2 failed impeachment attempts and BLM slagging Biden off for deserting them.
Old Joe has gone very quiet since.
Listening to Starmer today, the same feeling is occurring here.
Our government is ****, but so is the opposition and no one has any ideas how to replace it.

[ramAnag]

He doesn't like Johnson or the Tories. I get that and it is his right to feel that way.
I have asked him for an alternative before and got no where with that. I even told him to stand, seeing as he is so knowledgable.
All he does is lash out. He sounds like the far left we have here, or the democrats in the US.
moan/criticise/scream with no ideas.

Talking of which, now Trumps gone, what's changed?
Absolutely nothing apart from 2 failed impeachment attempts and BLM slagging Biden off for deserting them.
Old Joe has gone very quiet since.
Listening to Starmer today, the same feeling is occurring here.
Our government is ****, but so is the opposition and no one has any ideas how to replace it.

Hmmm...so in the month since Biden took charge he’s meant to have made a difference, but in the two months since Brexit began it’s far too early to judge. Logical.

[swaledale]

I agree balance is everything, RA. Tell me where Swale has given the government any credit, unless you class admiring the government for not getting in the way of the scientists and the NHS, as being credit.

Unlike myself and yourself, who have praised and criticised the government at times, just with different thresholds on both.

My succinct reply on the whole issue would be this

We have very high death rates from a global pandemic and the government’s handling of that pandemic shares the same marks of ignoring the science, promising big and delivering late and small. What is saving us at the moment is that when the scientists dig in their heels even this government does the right thing (late), that UK science (not under government guidance or leadership) has delivered vaccines and that the NHS has been too strong and wonderful an institution to allow us to die in even greater numbers. The bright spots in the pandemic are the areas where government has been unable to cock it up and where public service has remained the bedrock of how the system works despite this government’s incompetence.


Now even a broken clock is right twice a day! I give Johnson and this Government some credit for the success of the vaccination programme so far? But only up to a point, they took a gamble, it paid off, sometimes lady luck smiles on even the dimmest of epople and Johnson is very dim!

The Eu were more cautious in approval (which may be a good thing) and very slow in procurement but the end game may be the same. but if people forget the utter incompetence that has gone before this point then I'd say they deserve the government they get.

[Trickytreesreds]

Hmmm...so in the month since Biden took charge he’s meant to have made a difference, but in the two months since Brexit began it’s far too early to judge. Logical.

My point was RA, that Biden was going turn everything the other way that Trump did. All that has happened up to yet, is the Democrats have been like rabid dogs after Trump to no avail. Biden goes silent and all the mouth of change and promises ahve done nothing. As said BLM claim he's betrayed then, yet he did use them to curry favour. I see very little difference with the opposition here. Perhaps you can convince me what's on offer?

[AdiSalisbury]

I waited for my GP to contact me, it was very easy, they just sent a text with a link for me to book. They'll text me again in a few weeks. I'm amazed at how such a huge and complex logistical operation has gone so smoothly. There's a lot of background people pulling miracles we should be thankful for.

[ramAnag]

My point was RA, that Biden was going turn everything the other way that Trump did. All that has happened up to yet, is the Democrats have been like rabid dogs after Trump to no avail. Biden goes silent and all the mouth of change and promises ahve done nothing. As said BLM claim he's betrayed then, yet he did use them to curry favour. I see very little difference with the opposition here. Perhaps you can convince me what's on offer?

Biden has been in position for almost exactly one month.

Starmer has been leader of the Labour Party for just ten months and of a Party that has now been in opposition for almost eleven years. All his time as leader of the opposition has been spent during a pandemic, with a largely empty House of Commons and, thanks to Corbyn and Co, a very divided Labour Party up against a massive Government majority. Despite all that he has still managed to show Johnson the way on a number of occasions and invariably talks more sense than the PM...imo.

[Andy_Faber]

I waited for my GP to contact me, it was very easy, they just sent a text with a link for me to book. They'll text me again in a few weeks. I'm amazed at how such a huge and complex logistical operation has gone so smoothly. There's a lot of background people pulling miracles we should be thankful for.

I keep saying that too, its a bloody miracle too as far as I'm concerned but everytime I do Jeanne Mockford raises from the dead and ah-buts me. Anyway, I will be very grateful tomorrow

[Andy_Faber]

Swale...it’s not my role to speak for him.

Now YOU'RE having a josh!

[Trickytreesreds]

Biden has been in position for almost exactly one month.

Starmer has been leader of the Labour Party for just ten months and of a Party that has now been in opposition for almost eleven years. All his time as leader of the opposition has been spent during a pandemic, with a largely empty House of Commons and, thanks to Corbyn and Co, a very divided Labour Party up against a massive Government majority. Despite all that he has still managed to show Johnson the way on a number of occasions and invariably talks more sense than the PM...imo.

Fair do's RA, like you say it's your opinion.
Public opinion though doesn't agree with you.
He comes across to many, as a moaner with no brilliant ideas. Seeing as his ideas are unaccountable, that's just not good enough.
To be fair to your comment, the party itself still does him no favours. Yet lets be honest here, he picked the shadow cabinet.

It's things like this little gem that get him humiliated and the party laughed at. Like I said, time they pampered to the majority and not the minority. Then his COVID COMPLAINTS would get more serious attention. IMO.

https://www.euroweeklynews.com/2021/...of-mr-and-mrs/